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GY-180 (ebay) monolight review

 
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Oct 27, 2007 05:39 |  #1

Introduction

I was looking for some cheap monolights to use for very formal school portraits – the yearbook committee had decided that we where going to take the photos ourselves, and we simply didn't have the kit required. My aim was to set up a 4-flash mini-studio using my two existing hotshoe strobes.


The GY-180 seemed to fit the bill. It's cheap – if I wanted to buy one on its own I'd only pay £40 or so – it was available in kits with significant savings, it was compatible with things like soft-boxes that simply aren't easy to use on a hotshoe flash, and it used mains power – if I'm doing 120 portraits with 2 or 3 images per person, the number of batteries I'd need to buy, let alone the charging time, in order to keep going constantly would be uneconomical. I will have to charge AA's for my Sigma, but not for the two main lights.


The GY-180 is advertised by a number of ebay sellers, almost all based in Hong Kong. I purchased mine off-ebay from a user called “Mr.Studio.One”, after negotiating with him. It's worth noting that the sellers are normally happy to give you deals or modify the package available.


The strobe itself isn't very powerful. The advertised Guide Number of 48M is comparable with a hotshoe flash like the Sigma EF-500 Super, but certainly not in the realms of AB's or any other higher power strobe. I can't give any comparisons to 150Ws branded strobes. However, after doing some test shots it seems like, with 2 strobes and a Sigma EF 500 DG Super, I'll have enough power. If I ever want to upgrade in the future, the strobes cost so little (even the 300Ws and 600Ws strobes offered on Ebay are pretty good value) that I can keep these lights for hair-lighting and background lighting, and not be any worse off.


My requirements where for two strobes, a softbox or two and some umbrellas. I already had a silver umbrella I purchased from china a few months ago as part of a strobist kit. I initially contacted him to request a quote for just the strobes, the umbrellas and the softboxes, but decided to add in a light stand as well. I already had two from my strobist kit, but I decided that I'd probably need more.


The ebay item I initially based my purchase on can be seen here: Clicky (external link)

If that doesn't work, I've made an image of the auction (click here, 500KB PNG) (external link)

The seller can be found here:

Mr-Studio-One (external link)

I changed some aspects of the purchase though, asking for white umbrellas instead of gold (retroactively I wish I'd gone with 1 silver and 1 white) and I only asked for one lightstand (as I already had 2). My total order cost including postage came to £118.


Postage was fast, via Hong Kong Post and then Parcelforce Worldwide. I ordered Thursday and they tried to deliver on Wednesday. The largest delay was in fact Parcelforce (or Parcelfarce as they're known), with the package sitting in Heathrow airport for no less than 4 days.


The Kit


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It all arrived in a big box. The softboxes were folded up in bags, the umbrellas, strobes and stand were in their own boxes. The strobes were well packed, with styrofoam surrounding them in the box.

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The strobe and it's packaging and cables.

Each strobe came with a very long power cable and an equally long sync cable. My only criticism of anything that came in the kit is the sync cables – the connector was too tight, and completely ripped the sync port off one of my ebay triggers. Because the strobes use a standard 3.5mm sync, I simply found another cable (the one that comes with the triggers) and used that with my other trigger. It seems somewhat looser. The weak sync port has long been a criticism of the ebay triggers though, so I guess it is to be expected. I have a hotshoe>PC adapter from my 350D that I can use if for whatever reason I destroy both sync ports.


The umbrellas where small by some studio standards, but the same size as my pre-existing silver one. Because I'm working in small rooms for the main use of the strobes, it's not really an issue as I'll need to have the lights relatively close to the subject. If I find myself in a bigger room in the future, I can always get a 300 or 600Ws strobe/umbrella combination and easily relegate what I have to other duties.

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The softboxes are pretty much what it says on the tin. Again, they are not very big – 50x70cm leaves quite a lot to be desired. However, in the distances available to me they don't have to be very big. The test shots I've done seemed perfectly acceptable, and certainly not harsh.


The lighting stand is certainly very good. In terms of cost to me, it would have been about £93 delivered without the stand, and £118 with it, so an overall posted cost of £25. It is certainly a step up on the cheap portaflash ones I've already got in use and feel. I'm not sure whether the added cost was worth it, but it will definitely get good use :D. As well as air suspension (drop the flash, it sinks slowly), it is adaptable and allows the flash to be mounted at a 90 degree angle. It also has a reversible small/big stud.


In Use


I set it all up to try and work out the best settings for the application – my school yearbook. All the portraits I took are relatively formal, as that's the kind of image expected for the yearbook. The background is a sheet (I'm going to get something nicer for the proper portraits :D).


The main light was at about ½ power on camera left, about 2 meters from the subject with a softbox. The fill light was at ¾ power behind me and slightly camera right, with a silver umbrella.


The Sigma was on camera right and behind the model as a hair light. A very cheap small flash I bought for £1 from a charity shop was providing a bit of fill for the background behind and below the model. The PP on the images may not be very good as my monitor is broken and I'm connecting to my computer via Windows remote desktop, so the colour depth of anything I view isn't very good.


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Conclusion


My overall impression so far is very good. Time will tell how the flashes stand up to regular use, but from what I've achieved in my house I'm certainly happy that I'll be able to achieve what the yearbook guys want – easily recognisable nicely posed formal photos...


If anyone has any questions, comments, suggestions, criticisms, wants to edit my images or ask for more shots, please feel free.

Update: 29th Mar 08

Having used these strobes for what I bought them for, I'm still happy. To see the yearbook pictures I used them for, please PM me for the password. Some of the other images on my website (http://www.lrampen.com (external link)) also used them.

The softboxes are a little small, but otherwise work well. The light output is certainly not enough for a big multi-person shoot (as more than fill anyway) but for single 3/4 lengths and less it is more than adequate. In a dark room it could also be used for more. The light stands that come with the strobes are excellent.

The only negative I've found so far is that one of the extra-long IEC leads that came with the strobe doesn't fit in properly (I know it's the lead as it does the same thing in both strobes). I could either find a way of fixing it, or replace it for not very much. It's normally not an issue, but moving the flash around can sometimes cause it to fall out.

Update, 6th Jan 10

I'm not on these forums very often. Send me a PM and I'm more likely to respond.

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Oct 28, 2007 13:19 |  #2

Can this thread be added to the reviews section?


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Oct 29, 2007 08:30 as a reply to  @ lakiluno's post |  #3

Looks good for the price, my only question/concern is the output control.

It looks like its Full, 1/2 or 1/4 switch selectable instead of variable - is that right?




  
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Oct 29, 2007 11:25 |  #4

Thanks for the review.
Do the strobes have modeling lights?


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Oct 29, 2007 14:22 |  #5

Curtis N wrote in post #4211811 (external link)
Thanks for the review.
Do the strobes have modeling lights?

Yes, they do. It's marked as a 50W bulb, which seems about right. I've never used modelling lights before, and I've seen a lot of criticisms by people (who don't have them) that the lights are too underpowered. As someone who's used off-camera flash without modelling lights, I don't find that they are the most useful feature anyway, but you can see how the light will fall.

Perhaps a 100W light would be more useful in showing defined edges between where the flash light falls and where it doesn't. I've not had a chance to use them in a darkened room, but I would think that how the light was falling would be much clearer.

If it interests your measurabator side, I'll do a colour temperature test to see how consistant it is. I don't have alight meter, so I can't really test the power output.


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Oct 29, 2007 18:50 |  #6

mbellot wrote in post #4210891 (external link)
Looks good for the price, my only question/concern is the output control.

It looks like its Full, 1/2 or 1/4 switch selectable instead of variable - is that right?

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There is a knob to dial from full to low. There isn't any scale on the knob, and without a light meter I don't know whether it's fully variable, but it's not a fixed full, 3/4, 1/2. 1/4 selection. I may set it up and use my camera and histogram to get an idea of the variable light output.


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Oct 30, 2007 04:01 |  #7

Thanks for the review. Can you post a picture of the speedring for the softbox?


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Oct 30, 2007 06:43 |  #8

Lotto wrote in post #4216838 (external link)
Thanks for the review. Can you post a picture of the speedring for the softbox?

you can see the "universal mount" on the softbox in one of the auctions by the seller, here (external link)


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Jun 10, 2009 14:33 |  #9

Hi Leo,

Many thanks for this review. I guess it's the only review available on the net for the GY 180 - and it's a very good one! I have a few questions for you:

1. Are you still happy with your purchase now?
2. Have you incurred import taxes / VAT?
3. You said you've purchase the kit off-Ebay - can you be more precise? And is this safe?

Thanks for your time,

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Jun 13, 2009 12:18 |  #10

Ok I have this package and am reasonably happy except for the light fitting to the top of the light stand. Can you tell me if you managed to screw the part in enough to hold the light without it moving as mine still has some movement.


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