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Sell 17-55 IS for 16-35 mkII?

 
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Oct 30, 2007 19:45 |  #1

Hey guys, need opinion on the above.

I carry 2 bodies with me 5D/70-200 IS and 30D/17-55 IS. Since most of the time I use the 30D as my main camera I really should be using the 5D.

I was thinking of selling above and get the 16-35 as I find the FOV of the 17-55(24-70mm in 35mm) is not wide enough.

What do you guys reckon?




  
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Oct 30, 2007 19:59 |  #2

Do it. Put the 16-35 on the 5d so you get the wide end at true 16mm, and the 70-200 on your 30d so you get the extra reach with the crop factor. Do it do it do it :)


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Oct 30, 2007 20:08 |  #3

daikatana wrote in post #4221736 (external link)
Hey guys, need opinion on the above.

I carry 2 bodies with me 5D/70-200 IS and 30D/17-55 IS. Since most of the time I use the 30D as my main camera I really should be using the 5D.

I was thinking of selling above and get the 16-35 as I find the FOV of the 17-55(24-70mm in 35mm) is not wide enough.

What do you guys reckon?

17mm on 30D is really about 28mm. 24mm is quite a bit wider than 28mm. I would suggest 24-70 or 24-105

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Oct 30, 2007 22:20 |  #4

I reckon 16mm on full frame is so wide you'd have to be careful about putting people anywhere near the edge of the frame. Even at 24mm people get quite distorted.


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Oct 30, 2007 22:22 |  #5

24-70 is your best bet with the 5D.


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Oct 30, 2007 23:14 |  #6

Wedding Shooter wrote in post #4222755 (external link)
24-70 is your best bet with the 5D.

Well I was thinking that as well but I also like to take landscape photos. Hmmmm might need to try and rent a 16-35 and see for myself




  
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Oct 30, 2007 23:29 |  #7

if you only need the wide sometimes, then the 17-40 would be a nice option. I agree about the 24-70L on the 5D. Phenomenal combo. Personally, I've rarely needed wider than 24mm on FF. However, I do need wider sometimes.


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Oct 30, 2007 23:54 |  #8

I'm kind of on the fence about this one. I'm not sure moving the 70-200 to the 30D is the smartest move really. Granted, the 5D generally has much better color rendition and is better for flesh tones, it really depends on how you are utilizing this lens in your current shooting habits. If you are using it more as a "zoom" in dark situations or primary in the ceremony, then I'd keep it on the 5D for resolution reasons. (providing you are always close enough to avoid major cropping in PP)

If you want wider than the 17mm (24mm), you could consider the 10-22mm for the 30D. I would guess that these wider images you are shooting are close ups and not necessarily landscapes, so the wider closer images on the 30D should be fine. It sort of depends on when you plan to use it really.

When I use my 10-22 for these types of images, I tend to shoot more in the 14-17mm range anyway. (anytime people are in the image) I personally do not like the 10mm extreme width unless it's for special images that generally do not involve people. It seems to work well otherwise. Then again, we're talking a slower piece of glass and typically an outdoor or flash only limitation. As Tim mentioned, now you have to be conscience about placement of subjects in relation to the extreme edges of the crop though with this lens as well.

Lots of good ideas here in the thread. There's really not a clear "best" choice in this situation really, but I do like the 24-70 idea on the 5D. You really can't go wrong there, but then you're back to the 70-200 on the crop. Not necessarily a bad thing really. Ultimately, if you think the 70-200 on the 30D is fine for your current shooting overall, then I think I'd lean towards that combo with the 24-70 on the 5D.

That's just my opinion anyway.




  
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Oct 31, 2007 00:35 |  #9

Are you shooting weddings? If yes, I would rethink about selling the second camera as a backup is highly recommended.
The 24-70L is a great (but heavy) lens. I'm using it mostly on my 1D Mark II. If you get the 16-35mm lens, you will have quite a gap between the 35 and 70mm which is needed quite of (ok, depending on style)

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Oct 31, 2007 00:45 |  #10

GertS wrote in post #4223413 (external link)
Are you shooting weddings? If yes, I would rethink about selling the second camera as a backup is highly recommended.

Just to clarify its only the the 17-55 I'm thinking of selling. I'm planning to put the 16-35mm on the 5D as my main lens.

I'm thinking if I needed the 24mm I can always snap it back on the 30D which will give me 25- 56mm FOV.

As for 24-70mm range I have the Sigma version which I have to admit is a pretty darn good lens but has a very noisy focusing motor




  
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Oct 31, 2007 02:14 |  #11

That is a bit clearer now.

However - I think you will find the 16-35 a little wide on the 5D to use as your main lens.


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Oct 31, 2007 02:22 |  #12

This is an apples and pears situation, the 17-55 is a std zoom on the 30d, the 16-35 is a wide zoom on the 5d. You'd be left with nothing between 35mm and 112mm (effective) if you put the 70-200 on the 30d. That's a complete standard zoom missing.

As others said, if you want to use the 5d as your primary camera, you need a standard zoom for it - not a wide one. The 24-70 is perfect, you could get away with the 24-105 if you have a fast standard prime to help it out.


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Oct 31, 2007 07:37 |  #13

Phil V wrote in post #4223669 (external link)
This is an apples and pears situation, the 17-55 is a std zoom on the 30d, the 16-35 is a wide zoom on the 5d. You'd be left with nothing between 35mm and 112mm (effective) if you put the 70-200 on the 30d. That's a complete standard zoom missing.

As others said, if you want to use the 5d as your primary camera, you need a standard zoom for it - not a wide one. The 24-70 is perfect, you could get away with the 24-105 if you have a fast standard prime to help it out.

They mentioned they had a 24-70 Sigma. But the 16-35 doesn't make sense on the 5D for a main lens.


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Oct 31, 2007 08:13 |  #14

I vote for 24-70/2.8L for the 5D.


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Oct 31, 2007 08:17 |  #15

JAcosta wrote in post #4221813 (external link)
Do it. Put the 16-35 on the 5d so you get the wide end at true 16mm, and the 70-200 on your 30d so you get the extra reach with the crop factor. Do it do it do it :)

x2 - the 17-40 is one of my favorite lenses on my 5D...was one of my favorite lenses on my 30D too!

Really, you have a lot of variation here:

16-35 on the 5D = ultra wide angle, great for ceremony panoramas, and tight bridal prep rooms, and reception dance floor photos.

16-35 on your 30D = Standard Zoom (though a little on the short side), great for ceremony processional/recession​al, group photos, first dance, etc.

70-200 on your 5D = standard telephoto, great for couple's portraits, close ups of the first dance and slow dances, etc.

70-200 on your 30D = long telephoto, great for close ups, candids, details, etc.

With the 17-55 you are limited to only the 30D. With the 16-35, you would have almost the same range on your 30D + extra wide angle range on your 5D.

Makes perfect sense to me...


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