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Nov 02, 2007 11:57 |  #1

Finally got my 40D yesterday, so thought i'd make my first pic-post, and make it a "Duck" shot.:D

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I know it's a nothing kind of a shot, but i'd like to know from you seasoned photogs, in light of various focusing issues the 40D is known for, if this shot seems to be ok. For your info, i was focusing on the duck's right eye(or the left eye in the pic:)). Btw, this was shot in RAW, and converted via DPP, and resized in PSE 5. All i've done to it is to re-adjust the WB, i'd been messing around indoors and forgot to change it from tungsten, and also made minor adjustemenst to brightness, contrast and sharpness again within DPP.

I'm fairly noobish when it comes to DSLR, this is my first digital body. I took up film photography some 5 years ago or so, but couldn't persue it as much as i would have liked as at the time i had a full time day job, and i was the resident sound engineer/promoter in a local music venue here in Liverpool in my spare time, as well as co-running a very small band management company and also spending 6 months of the year on and off organizing an annual music festival in the Lake District..............​.So not much time for anything else at all really:D

I have given up all the music work now, as i became a parent 2 years ago. The late nights running gigs didn't really mix with parenthood, so something had to give:D. So, now i have a lot more time on my hands, especially as i became redundant at my full time job quite recently (hence the investment in some nice new gear), i've decided to go back to college and study photography, and take it up seriously. So i hope this post to be the first of many.

Sorry for the long post, just thought it would be polite to introduce myself, this being such a brilliant community. Anyway, thanks a lot.

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Nov 02, 2007 12:07 |  #2

Welcome to the forum, and congrats on your new 40-D!! I just upgraded from a 30-D to a 40-D, and I am loving it!!


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Nov 02, 2007 12:57 |  #3

Calindy wrote in post #4239380 (external link)
Welcome to the forum, and congrats on your new 40-D!! I just upgraded from a 30-D to a 40-D, and I am loving it!!

Thanks Calindy, and it's nice to hear that your enjoying your new hardware:)


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Nov 02, 2007 13:28 |  #4

Exposure looks excellent as does the focus. Try changing the composition of future photographs, although centered pictures can look good, often times off-centered pictures are a bit more dynamic and interesting.


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Nov 02, 2007 13:30 |  #5

Hey!! I got one of those guys as well.  Welcome to the forum and enjoy your new camera. The 40D is a nice machine.


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Nov 02, 2007 13:36 |  #6

nmd wrote in post #4239793 (external link)
Exposure looks excellent as does the focus. Try changing the composition of future photographs, although centered pictures can look good, often times off-centered pictures are a bit more dynamic and interesting.

Hi nmd, and thanks for the advice. Can't wait to get some proper shooting time in. You're right regarding the compostion ofc, though i was just anxious to to make sure all was well with my copy, so all my artisitc sensibilties(not that i have that much:D) went out the window

Thanks again :)


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Nov 02, 2007 14:01 |  #7

IMO the picture is not tack sharp, there is evidently front focussing in this shot.




  
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Nov 02, 2007 15:35 |  #8

avandijk wrote in post #4240033 (external link)
IMO the picture is not tack sharp, there is evidently front focussing in this shot.

It looks like the duck is about to take flight. That might explain it.


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Nov 02, 2007 15:43 |  #9

avandijk wrote in post #4240033 (external link)
IMO the picture is not tack sharp, there is evidently front focussing in this shot.

I agree with this comment, it does have a front focus issue.
I had two 40D's with the same problem, and sent them both back and settled for a 30D, no more problems.

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Nov 02, 2007 17:33 |  #10

Ain't it strange that the two posters that see "front focus" here, had back or front focusing cameras too?

Hmmm...

I agree it isn't the sharpest shot in the world, but all I see is "it focused on the closest bit of duck to the camera" - the beak - rather than a fault.

Funny, that.

But then, my 40D doesn't front focus...




  
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Nov 02, 2007 17:36 |  #11

Yeah, the sharpest part of the shot seems to be the edge of the "pond" at the left. But that's probably on the same plane as the bill, where focus is harder to judge because the contrast is lower.

The OP focused on the duck's right eye, but the focus sensor area is larger than the indicators in the viewfinder.

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Nov 02, 2007 21:10 |  #12

number six wrote in post #4241158 (external link)
Yeah, the sharpest part of the shot seems to be the edge of the "pond" at the left. But that's probably on the same plane as the bill, where focus is harder to judge because the contrast is lower.

The OP focused on the duck's right eye, but the focus sensor area is larger than the indicators in the viewfinder.

-js

Yep, i see the "pond" reference too, it does seem to be the sharpest focused area, which as you say, is roughly on the same plane as the duck's bill.

What caught my attention is the next part in your post regarding the size of the "focus sensor area",.....and yep, it is harder to judge because of the ducks colour, and its contrast.

I think i'll need to shoot some more using easier definable areas of contrast before returiing my body.

Thanks for the input guys, much appreciated.


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Nov 02, 2007 21:24 as a reply to  @ painter24's post |  #13

Btw, forgot to give any EXIF info,....this was shot with f4, and as is obvious, from a downward angle, so.....is it possible that given the depth of field at f4, the difficult contrast definability, and the angle of the shot, that the ducks eye and bill would have fallen within the same DOF as the edge of the "pond" mentioned above, and therefore is maybe NOT a foward focusing fault?...............o​r am i just being wildly optimistic?:D

EDIT: shot with the Efs 17-55, 1/500. handheld


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Nov 02, 2007 22:14 as a reply to  @ painter24's post |  #14

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I shot this earlier, the focus point was the outer rim of the lens where the"Canon" and "Ultrasonic" logos are written,.....i'd be very grateful and apprciative for any thoughts on this shot, with regards to the comments on the previous shot and possible front focusing issues. This was with f4, 1/60, handheld, straight from camera, no PP, just RAW conversion, resizing and 100% crop in PSE 5.

Thanks again guys.

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Nov 02, 2007 23:01 |  #15

No front - or back, or sideways - focus problems there, as far as I can see. It's bang on.

I get just a bit irritated by people who spread what in the States is eloquently referred to as "FUD" (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) because they have (or think they have) a camera problem and seem to want to wish the same supposed problem on everyone else.




  
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