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Nov 05, 2007 15:24 |  #1

I did a quick search and found a couple bulky and strange looking setups. I was wondering if you guys had some good ways of attaching color gels to your flashes.

Here's what I envision: Get some tiny pieces of velcro (do they sell little velcro dots somewhere?) and attach/glue/tape/etc it on either side of the flash. And then have strips of color gels with little pieces of velcro on it as well to stick onto the flash. Seems like a simple way to do it.

But are there any places that sell little pieces of velcro or do I have to fashion a few pieces by cutting? Also, where can I get cheap color gels (i.e. colored transparency sheets).

Also, if you guys have any other ideas or cool setups, please show them.




  
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Nov 05, 2007 15:30 |  #2

go to http://www.rosco.com/ (external link) and request a sample book...they are pretty much the same shape as the speedlight flash heads


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Nov 05, 2007 15:42 |  #3

I have velcro'd Rosco samples and velcro wrapped around the heads of all my flashes, works great.


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Nov 05, 2007 15:52 |  #4

I've actually considered it, but haven't acted up on it yet. You can get color gels by ordering swatch books from Rosco, Lee, GAM or Apollo. It's a book of gel samples, but the samples are the size of most flashes. If you're not concerned about color accuracy, you can print colored rectangles on transparencies using your inkjet, or color them in with a marker.

You can go the velcro route, but I'm not a huge fan of sticking anything permanent (granted, velcro is not very permanent) to my flash. I'd prefer to take a cheap, front-of-flash diffusers (stofen, lumiquest or their respective knock-offs), slice out the front and allow the gels to slide in.

Please note though it's possible to melt gels with the heat on a flash. You might want to consider distancing your gels from the head or placing a UV/heat gel in between your flash and your gel. Of course, the further the distance the gel, the larger the gel you'll have to use since the flash spreads outward.... otherwise you'll end up with a colored snoot (which may be useful too).

If you do come up with an elegant solution, please post it!


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Nov 05, 2007 15:57 as a reply to  @ ghostman's post |  #5

If you mean Speedlites and shoe mounted flash, then take a look at this:

Although primitive in design it worked quite well.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=251705


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Nov 05, 2007 16:47 |  #6

My flash units are wrapped with adhesive velcro for a multitude of attachments.

This thread has a picture of how I attach my gels.


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Nov 05, 2007 16:57 |  #7

I use a rubber band; I do keep a spare rubber band in my bag.




  
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Nov 05, 2007 18:43 |  #8

Oh, and if you're interested in cheap gels, B&H has the Roscolux gel swatches for $0.01 (+shipping):

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_Roscolux_Swatc​hbook.html (external link)

This thread reminded me to check B&H on my way home from work and sure enough, they had it in stock. So 1 cent out the door. The cashier didn't seem to happy about it though. Oh well, they'll get plenty of my money soon enough.


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Nov 05, 2007 19:36 |  #9

Curtis N wrote in post #4258996 (external link)
My flash units are wrapped with adhesive velcro for a multitude of attachments.

This thread has a picture of how I attach my gels.

Curtis N's setup is what I had envisioned. However, what ghostman said about melting gels makes me nervous. Curtis, have you had any experience with melting gels?

I guess if I'm using colored flash, I probably won't be taking repeated shots over and over again.




  
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Nov 05, 2007 19:46 |  #10

I've never seen a gel melt unless it got wet.

I'd say an elastic band is the best attachment method.


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Nov 05, 2007 20:08 |  #11

They are cheap to replace when they fail.




  
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Nov 05, 2007 20:10 |  #12

Lidor7 wrote in post #4259961 (external link)
Curtis N's setup is what I had envisioned. However, what ghostman said about melting gels makes me nervous. Curtis, have you had any experience with melting gels?

I guess if I'm using colored flash, I probably won't be taking repeated shots over and over again.

I've not seen it happen, but I'm a relatively new to flash photography. TMR Design can probably comment on it, since he mentions it in this thread:
https://photography-on-the.net …hp?p=2613666&po​stcount=14

On that note, I doubt they cause any permanent damage to your flash. You may have to buy a new sheet of gel, but they aren't that expensive.


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Nov 05, 2007 20:24 |  #13

Lidor7 wrote in post #4259961 (external link)
Curtis, have you had any experience with melting gels?

No.

If you look at the picture carefully, you'll see there's a small gap between the gel and the flash for airflow. I would not recommend sandwiching a gel between the fresnel lens and the flip-down diffuser as that would trap the heat.

Remember, these gels are made for 1,000 watt continuous theatre lights. The're made to take a certain amount of heat and they're pretty tough. The adhesive that holds the velcro on would soften before the gel melted, and I've never had a problem.


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Nov 05, 2007 22:32 |  #14

the best I have used was made by a fellow POTN member.. https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=2420​19&page=42
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Nov 06, 2007 21:24 |  #15

I am not a fan of sticking anything to my flash head so I have one of these:

http://www.honlphoto.c​om …strobe-flash-nikon/Detail (external link)

He also makes a set of gels that are ready to go:

http://www.honlphoto.c​om …-Lighting-Gels/Categories (external link)

I also have a swatchbook from Rosco headed my way to make other gels.




  
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