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allenfr
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Nov 06, 2007 14:53 |  #1

Nice to find this Forum. I'm new to digital,a new 40D, but old to photography. Nice to see a place without a lot of hype !

There seem to be alot of places on the Net for printing, at reasonable prices. I've walked right by the photo kiosks for years, and never paid them much attention. But, for 4x6, 5x7, up to 8x10 the prices seem fairly inexpensive.

I've been using Photoshop for years, but mostly for corporate business stuff. And I'm really enjoying the freedom that RAW brings. Am I throwing all the post-prossessing away if I print online?

What have been the experience with the Wal Marts and printing?


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Nov 06, 2007 15:22 |  #2

Hi welcome to the forums. I'm new too.
For photo printing I usually use www.snapfish.com (external link) as their prices are great and I haven't had a problem with them yet. Walmart I recently used for my Holga printing needs and it only costs $1.50 to develop my roll! well it was a 12 exposure roll and they did shrink the photos by half for some reason and one of the shots bled onto another one.. but I still love how they came out. and imagine once they do it right, it'll only cost $4.00
anyway, I've printed a Walmart 8"10 before and it came out fine. they charged 4-5 dollars for it I think. Snapfish charges is 2.99. Ritz camera overcharges you for everything! I say just try snapfish and if you don't like them then go walmart. I'm sure they won't mess up a regular roll of film....


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Nov 06, 2007 15:53 |  #3

I don't use Walmart - not convenient for me. But I have used both mpix.com and printrooom.com - great processing, fast turn-around and good prices.

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Nov 06, 2007 16:57 |  #4

I like Costco (if you have a membership). Closest 1 to Maine is here:
Nashua, New Hampshire 03060

Printer profiles available here:
http://www.drycreekpho​to.com …Hampshire_profi​les.htm#NH (external link)

You can email & probably arrange to have prints mailed

BTW, welcome to the Forum

Nice to see a place without a lot of hype !

Advice if you want to continue to think this: Stay out of the lens forum. :lol:


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Nov 06, 2007 17:11 |  #5
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Mpix is probably one of the best online consumer labs in the business.



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Nov 06, 2007 17:59 as a reply to  @ liza's post |  #6

I also us Costco, shoot them over on line and drive over and pick them up, very fast.
I have also asked in person to have a test run done to check color and they were happy to do so with out a charge. Not sure if all Costco will offer that service.


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Nov 06, 2007 22:30 |  #7

WalMart doesn't teach their people how to actaully run their machines...they nothing of chemistry and if they chemistry is off...then why bother. The local Walmart runs everything on auto and never does an upkeep print in order to balance the machine, so in turn the color shifts. Walgreens, Eckerds, and other small drug stores use machines that are "all in ones" and cross containimation is a serious problem for those machines.

Don't have a local Costco...Wolf is the next thing here other than the prolabs....

I personally heard that White House Custom Labs is really good, inexpensive and has FTP transferr. They do want everything in JPG and set at 10 for best quality.
As well as MpIX being a very decent lab.

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Nov 06, 2007 23:30 |  #8

Another vote for Mpix, I've never had a bad experience


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Nov 06, 2007 23:47 |  #9

I use Mpix.com for the special pictures because they are really good. For everyday photos, I go to Costco.

In terms of throwing away your post processing for online printing, you don't. After you PP your photos, you need to upload a jpg for printing.


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Nov 07, 2007 00:18 |  #10

Allen,

toneyw wrote in post #4268050 (external link)
In terms of throwing away your post processing for online printing, you don't. After you PP your photos, you need to upload a jpg for printing.

Ditto that, you'll want to fully PP for the size of print you want. I'd also suggest you check with your lab about color space -- some want a CMYK color profile for their printers, but most popular labs will use sRGB. Some may allow for Adobe RGB or even ProPhoto RGB. These are good things to find out because:

When you output a jpeg or a tiff for printing, that file either has the generic sRGB profile by default or it may have an embedded profile. This is done by cameras for jpegs or by software such as Adobe PS and Lightroom and by the latest version of Canon's DPP. The profile could be sRGB, or it could be Adobe RGB, or, in the case of Lightroom, it could be ProPhoto RGB.

You should ensure that the color profile for your output file matches that required by your printer lab. Most will be fine with sRGB, in which case for your files you should either use sRGB as your "working color space" or explicitely convert them to sRGB. If the labs accept Adobe RGB or ProPhotoRGB or CMYK, as some upscale labs may, knowing this and acting accordingly will keep the colors of your prints in line with what you see at your computer. With printing, surprises are not a good thing.

I'd sugest that you pick a place and send it two or three pics that contain a broad range of tones and colors to print at 8x10 to test things out before you decide to jump in with both feet.

One other issue with digital is sharpening. This comes into play with printing because various print sizes will alter the approach to sharpening. If I'm preparing a picture to display at 800x600 on a Web page, or if I'm just printing a 4x6, I just do quick sharpening in my RAW converter. Even 8x10 is OK with modern cameras. But if you are thinking of larger formats, sharpening and noise reduction become critical issues. The same applies to significantly cropped pics. These cameras produce great pics at 13x19 and higher, just take some time to read up a little on strategies for maximizing your sharpening skills for large prints, and strategies for resizing then sharpening for enlarged prints. It'll be worth it!

Coming from film, the emphasis on sharpening might seem a bit strange, but the nature of digital capture/sensor design calls at least for initial sharpening in your RAW processor -- to make edges "real edges" -- and when you're talking enlarging for printing a careful approach to resizing and sharpening can make a big difference.

Hope this helps some!


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Nov 07, 2007 03:14 |  #11

Mark_Cohran wrote in post #4265369 (external link)
I don't use Walmart - not convenient for me. But I have used both mpix.com and printrooom.com - great processing, fast turn-around and good prices.

Mark

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Nov 07, 2007 03:18 |  #12

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Nov 07, 2007 05:41 |  #13

Thanks for the comments. I've sent some to Walmart in the next town, and will try mpix next.
I just got the 40D a few days ago, and like anything else in life, feel the only way to learn it is to do it. I spent an afternoon in the local gravel pit, piles of stones were a fun way to find out depth of field and f stop changes. The local old fart coffee gathering spot made for good times doing faces, and learning focus points and speed. Then an hour at the daycare where I pick up my three year old grandson was a real hoot. I finished up last night at the local townhall for a weekly Selectman meeting. Good faces! Strange, that the same people that don't mind ranting in front of a video camera, far more reserved in front of a camera ! ?
So far I am enjoying the 50mm cheapy lens more than the 28-135 kit zoom.
Can I assume the noise people talk about is sorta like grain in the film stuff? The stuff last night was in a dimly lite room, and I was using ISO of 1800 and 3200. Ok for the website, but lots of grain, aka noise ?


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Nov 07, 2007 06:14 |  #14

tonylong wrote in post #4268655 (external link)
I hate ittt whiiheen peeeep;e cattcxch nm y tryupoles!

Only commented on that mistake since it related to a URL that people might not find otherwise...


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