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Nov 06, 2007 23:18 |  #1

Well, basically I'd like to know if these CS3 books, particularly the Kelby book are mainly for beginners with photography and photoshop or if they are useful enough for an intermediate like myself that will make it worthwhile to purchase. Thanks in advance.

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Nov 07, 2007 01:29 |  #2

It depends what you know and what you want to know. Take a look at the table of contents on amazon.com , and read the sample chapters if you can find any.


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Nov 07, 2007 04:10 |  #3

I have been able to find some of Scott Kelby's books at the library. Have you thought of trying that?




  
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Nov 07, 2007 04:33 as a reply to  @ queenbee288's post |  #4

thanks guys, there are no sample pages at amazon, i checked that before. i could check the library. maybe i'll hit up borders and flip through it if they have it. I don't know though, I'm happy with my general workflow. I'm just wondering if maybe there's somethings I'm missing that I should be learning. I'm sure there's a lot of things for me to learn with layers still. So basically I'm still unsure, lol.


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Nov 07, 2007 09:36 |  #5

Kelby's books are pretty good reads, and he tries to do more than be just a re-hash of the User Guide. He takes on practical applications, tips and tricks, stuff like that. Not a bad addition to your library.


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Nov 07, 2007 14:20 |  #6

Kelby's books are available at your Border's bookstores or Barnes & Noble. Look for them in the computer section.


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Nov 07, 2007 16:02 |  #7

although his approach to humour, on every single page, can get a little bit tiresome, the books are informative.
i used the CS2 one and, not having photographic memory, i still refer to it.


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Nov 07, 2007 20:24 as a reply to  @ Hangerhead's post |  #8

Thanks everyone. You've been most helpful. Once I get a chance I'm gonna head up to border's and flip through it.

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Nov 07, 2007 20:32 |  #9

I think you'll like it, but be aware that he wrote that book for version 1.0, and Lightroom has had a significant update since then, v.1.1, as well as a less substantial update 1.2. So, when you read the book, the basic workflow and much of the functionality is the same, but there are some nice things that have been added that you want to read up on. I don't know if Kelby has an "update chapter" online, but the book will give you a link to part of his website where he dishes out some extras and it would be worth checking out.

Have a good read!


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Nov 08, 2007 03:31 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #10

I have the CS2 For Digital Photographers and found it to be a good book. It's always hard for a book to cater for an individuals exact level of skill. There were many things I'd already knew how to do, there were some things that I didn't know. In hind sight, it was worth it to me for the new things I learnt added to my PP skills.


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Nov 08, 2007 17:21 |  #11

tonylong wrote in post #4274151 (external link)
I think you'll like it, but be aware that he wrote that book for version 1.0, and Lightroom has had a significant update since then, v.1.1, as well as a less substantial update 1.2. So, when you read the book, the basic workflow and much of the functionality is the same, but there are some nice things that have been added that you want to read up on. I don't know if Kelby has an "update chapter" online, but the book will give you a link to part of his website where he dishes out some extras and it would be worth checking out.

Have a good read!

wouldn't that be in the "lightroom" book, not the "cs3" book? i specifically asked about the cs3 book. you know what though, with all i've been hearing about lightroom, maybe i should just get lightroom and the lightroom book - lol thanks for confusing me even more ;)


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Nov 08, 2007 17:24 |  #12

Ephemeral wrote in post #4275977 (external link)
I have the CS2 For Digital Photographers and found it to be a good book. It's always hard for a book to cater for an individuals exact level of skill. There were many things I'd already knew how to do, there were some things that I didn't know. In hind sight, it was worth it to me for the new things I learnt added to my PP skills.

cool, thanks. you seemed to have been in about the same boat as me, and it helped you, so i'm sure it would help me too


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Nov 08, 2007 17:37 |  #13

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wouldn't that be in the "lightroom" book, not the "cs3" book? i specifically asked about the cs3 book. you know what though, with all i've been hearing about lightroom, maybe i should just get lightroom and the lightroom book - lol thanks for confusing me even more ;)

Heh! You're so right! Sorry, sometimes things confuse me:)!


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Nov 08, 2007 20:58 |  #14

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Heh! You're so right! Sorry, sometimes things confuse me:)!

Haha, no worries :)


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Nov 10, 2007 08:01 |  #15
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Stupid bloody ISP connection, grrr...did post a reply to this but my ISP decided to *hit itself and of course, the post is lost and I have to retype it..

Anyways, the gist of my reply was that I have Kelby's CS2 book and love it. Simple, intuitive, and helpful. Well worth the money imho. As to the humour, I don't have a problem with it. I'd rather that than a cold read like Martin Evening's CS2 book (boring, and doesn't really explain things well, not worth the money).

It just goes to show that just cos you're an expert on something, it doesn't automatically mean that you can effectively teach others.

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