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First Bird shot (Collared Dove) - C&C most welcome and appreciated

 
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Nov 07, 2007 08:22 |  #1

Ok, my first bird shot:). Took it earlier today. As you can see from the photo, it's a horrible grey, dull, overcast kind of a day, but i've been itching to get out, even just in the garden to see what was around, and saw this little guy on next door's tv ariel

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Shot with 40D & 100-400L TV mode @ 1/125, f7.1, ISO100, 100% crop of original.
RAW-Jpeg via DPP, with some sharpening and brightness adjustments. Crop and resize done in PSE 5.

Thanks for looking guys:)

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Nov 07, 2007 08:45 |  #2

Nice shot Painter and welcome to the bird forum...be very careful as bird photography becomes quickly addicting and expensive as you always need longer lenses :) :)


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Nov 07, 2007 08:48 |  #3

Welcome to the bird forum...Very nice shot to start out with. Looking forward to your future postings.


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Nov 07, 2007 08:52 |  #4

You got the colours of the bird OK anyway and the sky is not your fault, nice image.

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Nov 07, 2007 08:59 |  #5

Nice shot considering the circumstances. You might want to try Av Mode to keep control over the aperture though.


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Nov 07, 2007 09:37 |  #6

nice first post and welcome.




  
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Nov 07, 2007 09:43 as a reply to  @ canonloader's post |  #7

Thanks for all your comments guys, I can certainly understand it becoming addictive..........act​ually it's one of the main reasons for me doing photography, birds and wildlife I mean.

With regards to shooting in AV mode, the reason I shot in TV mode was to get a faster shutter speed to compensate for the windy conditions,....I could just about see the tv ariel shifting slightly as i viewed through the viewfinder, otherwise I do usually use AV mode. Does that make sense, or am i talking nonsense? :lol:

Oh Dai, what part of South Wales are you from, i'm an ex-Welsh pat, living in Liverpool. I'm from Hirwaun/Aberdare originally?

Thanks again guys:)

ps, i understand i will lose AF if I used either the x1.4 or x2 TC with my 100-400L, is this correct? Not a problem, but i would like to get a little more reach without spending more on another big FL lens. Also, is there significant loss in IQ with these converters?


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Nov 07, 2007 09:50 |  #8

Does that make sense, or am i talking nonsense?

Well, there are other ways to up the shutter speed. I like AV Mode, because all lenses have their sweet spot. You have to test in all f/stops to find out what yours is, but say it's f/6.3. In Tv Mode, the camera can change the f/stop to one that isn't as sharp as 6.3. I don't ever want that to happen, so I use Av Mode and either use exposure compensation to get a little more shutter speed, use flash, or, I change the ISO to adjust it. Since you shot at ISO 100, there was a lot of leeway there for adjusting ISO to double shutter speed each time you upped the ISO a notch. ;)


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Nov 07, 2007 10:08 as a reply to  @ canonloader's post |  #9

Thanks Canonloader, thats great advice, much appreciated.:)


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Nov 07, 2007 13:08 |  #10

welcome painter and a good shot from 100% ive noticed that at iso 100 and @1/125 so i would use auto iso on a dull day will be 800 and usable. (crappy uk weather)
so this will give a faster shutter speed.


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Nov 07, 2007 13:42 |  #11

Better than my first attempts but ease off the sharpening a bit as you can see a halo around the bird.




  
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Nov 07, 2007 14:34 as a reply to  @ eccles's post |  #12

Thanks jpalmer and Eccles. Eccles, you're right about the sharpening, i need to hold back a tad on that. I've just found my 40D a tad soft, so i think i tend to overcomensate.


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Nov 07, 2007 15:17 |  #13

Hi Painter, im'e from Llanelli. As to losing auofocus have a look here
http://www.michaelfurt​man.com/taping_the_pin​s.htm (external link)
or type Canon+autofocus+tape pins in Google.

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Nov 07, 2007 15:26 |  #14

I believe that halo is from resizing in Elements. I have seen it before on jpg's resized with Elements. Can you test that?


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Nov 07, 2007 15:30 |  #15

DaiWelsh wrote in post #4272058 (external link)
Hi Painter, im'e from Llanelli. As to losing auofocus have a look here
http://www.michaelfurt​man.com/taping_the_pin​s.htm (external link)
or type Canon+autofocus+tape pins in Google.

Dai

Thanks for the link Dai, that's great:), and say hello to Wales for me, i should be back down there again before Christmas, looking forward to it, really miss the old homeland.


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