40D - Theater - I miss Nikon.

ThomasOwenM wrote in post #4270027
It's also not hard at all to switch ISO on the fly.

and its not hard to switch aperture or shutter speed on the fly either so why bother having Av and Tv modes? i don't understand why people have such an opposition to auto iso. we have auto aperture (Tv), and we have auto shutter (Av) modes, i think its silly that there's no customizable auto iso function and sillier that so many people don't see the value in it simply because nikons have it.

cdifoto wrote in post #4270782
I suspect (and hope) it'd be another mode on the dial like M, P, Av, Tv, etc.

it would work better as just being a selectable iso value that way you could use it in any mode. just stick it after H.

matthew blake wrote in post #4271027
it would work better as just being a selectable iso value that way you could use it in any mode. just stick it after H.

Not really. It would be IMPOSSIBLE to meter a scene in Av if your ISO is constantly changing. Just like it'd be impossible to do the reverse in Tv, or worse yet - manual mode...you're trying to set SS and Aperture to expose +2/3, yet the ISO keeps moving the needle to center no matter what SS and Aperture you use.

It would be a nice feature to have. It doesn't hurt to have another feature. I could see myself using it here and there.

Sure, any time you want DOF control and speed control. Right now as a Canon user, all we have is resorting to manual. Nothing wrong with that, but Av, Tv, and Iv gives the photog more control. It’s just another dial setting anyway as everything needed to do the calculations are already there in camera.

cdifoto wrote in post #4271037
Not really. It would be IMPOSSIBLE to meter a scene in Av if your ISO is constantly changing. Just like it'd be impossible to do the reverse in Tv, or worse yet - manual mode...you're trying to set SS and Aperture to expose +2/3, yet the ISO keeps moving the needle to center no matter what SS and Aperture you use.

ah yes good point, wrote too fast. so have it a selectable iso in manual mode, or make it a dial option.

Me personally, I like to use ISO 100 on bright sunny days. How's that workin' for ya on the D40?

I'm not a big fan of letting the camera decide how much noise is in my pictures. That said, I am not opposed to having it on the camera if someone else wants it. It would have to be user-definable, though. With my XTi, for instance, ISO 100-400 is virtually noise-free, but 800 starts to show a bit of noise. It would be okay if I could tell the camera to only go between 100-400, or 100-800. Before I shoot 1600, I want to know about it.

randy p. wrote in post #4270889
i think the "negativety" isnt directed at the statement about missing his nikon, it might be "directed" at the fact that he has a prosumer camera and he wont just set the ISO himself (which takes all of 2 seconds to switch on a 40D). I'm not sure though, it didnt really bug me all that much but I can see how it could bug others. The ISO performance on the d40 is actually very good compared to other nikons.

In sports, that 2 seconds just cost you your Sport Illustrated cover shot as the winning Superbowl touchdown was scored as you were fiddling with your camera. If I could have my shutter set to stop the action and my aperature set to isolate the player and have the ISO range from 400 - 3200, why would you not think this is a good feature? Oh...I know, Nikon thought of it first.

Hogloff wrote in post #4271149
In sports, that 2 seconds just cost you your Sport Illustrated cover shot as the winning Superbowl touchdown was scored as you were fiddling with your camera.

Super Bowls are generally (always?) at night under constant lighting. That's set it & forget it conditions. If it's a daytime game, you can set your ISO high enough to get a desireable aperture and shutter speed and you're good to go. If shooting Av, get the ISO high enough that the minimum (cloud cover or shade) SS is fast enough to stop action, and when the clouds clear or they move out of the shade, your SS will be even faster...not a bad thing.

cdifoto wrote in post #4271166
Superbowls are at night under constant lighting. That's set it & forget it conditions.

Ah, but what if Doug Flutie were the QB, and his tiny little 5 foot 9 body were in the shadow of the 6 foot 5 Ed "too tall" Jones? That has to be worth a couple stops right?

Hogloff wrote in post #4271149
In sports, that 2 seconds just cost you your Sport Illustrated cover shot as the winning Superbowl touchdown was scored as you were fiddling with your camera. If I could have my shutter set to stop the action and my aperature set to isolate the player and have the ISO range from 400 - 3200, why would you not think this is a good feature? Oh...I know, Nikon thought of it first.

haha im sorry but if a photographer for sports illustrated gets caught with his pants down like that, switching ISO in the middle of a play, he wont be a sports illustrated photographer for too long.

It's not like Kodak moments are flying past my lens nonstop, i've always had time to change ISO in any situation. If i do miss a shot that i would have liked to get while i was changing ISO, thats how it goes...I mean, how often do you change ISO realistically speaking. Most people I've shot with just set it and forget about it until the light changes drastically.

Also, I actually wouldnt like the camera changing the ISO without me asking it to. youre just letting the machines win if you do that... we've all seen terminator havent we? But seriously it's just another digital thing that takes the creativeness out of photography IMO.

I have no idea why you guys are arguing about this, it seems as obvious as Tv or Av mode in the digital world. As long as the camera supports changing ISO in 1/3 stop increments (which my Rebel XTi does not), I can't see anything bad about it. Now that ISO is shown in viewfinders, it would just flash the ISO at 50 if your shutter and aperture settings are too bright or flash it at 3200 if they're too dark. It's an easy feature, and if anyone doesn't like it they don't need to use it. Much like some shun Tv and Av modes already, in favor of M.

vic6string wrote in post #4271137
I'm not a big fan of letting the camera decide how much noise is in my pictures. That said, I am not opposed to having it on the camera if someone else wants it. It would have to be user-definable, though. With my XTi, for instance, ISO 100-400 is virtually noise-free, but 800 starts to show a bit of noise. It would be okay if I could tell the camera to only go between 100-400, or 100-800. Before I shoot 1600, I want to know about it.

you wouldn't keep your camera in auto iso mode all the time anymore than you keep your camera in Tv mode all the time. sometimes Tv mode is useful, sometimes auto iso would be useful. we all use Av and Tv modes, this is no different.

randy p. wrote in post #4271256
haha im sorry but if a photographer for sports illustrated gets caught with his pants down like that, switching ISO in the middle of a play, he wont be a sports illustrated photographer for too long.

It's not like Kodak moments are flying past my lens nonstop, i've always had time to change ISO in any situation. If i do miss a shot that i would have liked to get while i was changing ISO, thats how it goes...I mean, how often do you change ISO realistically speaking. Most people I've shot with just set it and forget about it until the light changes drastically.

Also, I actually wouldnt like the camera changing the ISO without me asking it to. youre just letting the machines win if you do that... we've all seen terminator havent we? But seriously it's just another digital thing that takes the creativeness out of photography IMO.

you don't use Av and Tv modes then right? or autofocus? or auto white balance?