Another 30D vs 40D

Good morning!

I have been planning to have a two-camera kit, one FF and one 1.6 crop. I have a 5D and 20D now, and was thinking of replacing the 20D with a newer version in the upcoming future.

The 30D has got the same IQ as the 20D, it's just a newer body and more similar to the 5D
The 40D is all-new, and I haven't played with it

Now, what I want to ask is: Which of those cameras have got *better* image quality? I'm not talking about detail (more pixels = more detail), just IQ, and not even noise.

As the price difference between the cameras is not too big, these are the two options.

Does the more dynamic range in the 40D offer more exposing in Photoshop without getting too much grain?


Many thanks in advance,

Aero

Ok first off, I’m new to photography so what I say may not be right, but from my personal opinion….The IQ between the 30D & 40D looks the same to me.

The only thing is, the 40D has the options to get those pictures more often than the 30D. That’s just my 2 cents. I hope that makes sense. Peace.

Donte wrote in post #4288586
Ok first off, I’m new to photography so what I say may not be right, but from my personal opinion….The IQ between the 30D & 40D looks the same to me.

The only thing is, the 40D has the options to get those pictures more often than the 30D. That’s just my 2 cents. I hope that makes sense. Peace.

40D has a higher KEEP rate! More MP.. More Dynamic Range.. Digic III wich improves the IQ.

40D 14Bit vs 12Bit

Is the difference hughe.... no!

But the difference is present!

If the 30D would have the same IQ as the 40D .........then people would by a second hand 20D!!! Because the 20D has the same IQ as the 30D!!??

Yeah yeah, you're right guys.........

40D will be added then.

And I guess the NG 5D will have better IQ than the 'old' one has...?

Overkill wrote in post #4288716
40D has a higher KEEP rate! More MP.. More Dynamic Range.. Digic III wich improves the IQ.

40D 14Bit vs 12Bit

Is the difference hughe.... no!

But the difference is present!

If the 30D would have the same IQ as the 40D .........then people would by a second hand 20D!!! Because the 20D has the same IQ as the 30D!!??

I have a 400D which is DigicII and a 40D which is DigicIII. There is no difference in IQ between the two. THere are additional features and some improvements, but IQ isn't one of them.

you cant tell the difference... Get the 30D and save some $$ unless you need the extra 1.5 frames per sec... or are disappointed in the 30D's AF...

aero145 wrote in post #4288449
Good morning!

I have been planning to have a two-camera kit, one FF and one 1.6 crop. I have a 5D and 20D now, and was thinking of replacing the 20D with a newer version in the upcoming future.

The 30D has got the same IQ as the 20D, it's just a newer body and more similar to the 5D
The 40D is all-new, and I haven't played with it

Go for the 30D, the reason why? Like your 20D the 30D will have all the buttons in the same spots. The 40D moves buttons and functions like ISO. I shoot a 30D & a 40D side by side. The fact that they don't have the same function lay out drives me insane.

Menu system, buttons, layout, and LCD are the same between the 30D and 5D, and the few hundred saved can't loose.

Thank ya guys.

No, I don't need any bursting really, 5 fps has done fine for me, and I never use it actually.

20D's af has let me down often, the 5D has been okay but I'm not sure about the 30D... has it got the same focussing system as the 20D or a newer, faster one?

I could also add the 40D and then the NG 5D later which will for sure have the same layout.

what is "NG 5d"?

I'd get the 40D hands down. The better AF, FPS, and HTP make it well worth the extra money.

sadowsk2 wrote in post #4289331
you cant tell the difference... Get the 30D and save some $$ unless you need the extra 1.5 frames per sec... or are disappointed in the 30D's AF...

Or want live view. That feature alone was enough for me. Also, the 40D has a bigger viewfinder and improved focusing.

gjl711 wrote in post #4289130
I have a 400D which is DigicII and a 40D which is DigicIII. There is no difference in IQ between the two. THere are additional features and some improvements, but IQ isn't one of them.

Stick with your 400D and Digic II....

But dont say that the Digic III cant give you a better picture...

Digic III has many advantages which van make a picture better....
(why should Canon spend a few million Dollars on improvements)!

Wow 40D--30D--40D--30D--40D--30D--40D...

Well, more 40D's so that's the answer. LOL!

Overkill wrote in post #4290180
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But dont say that the Digic III cant give you a better picture...

Digic III has many advantages which van make a picture better....
(why should Canon spend a few million Dollars on improvements)!

There are improvement, but noise control and IQ doesn't seem to be one of them.

BTW, I believe that DigicIII was really targeted to the P/S market as the real improvements between DigicII and DigicIII are in features that SLRs are just not good at, things like face detection AF/AE, auto red eye detection and such.

gjl711 wrote in post #4290474
There are improvement, but noise control and IQ doesn't seem to be one of them.

BTW, I believe that DigicIII was really targeted to the P/S market as the real improvements between DigicII and DigicIII are in features that SLRs are just not good at, things like face detection AF/AE, auto red eye detection and such.

I dont agree.... (and i am not alone)!

The 14 Bit output is an improvement (not for everybody). The abilty to boost the Dynamic range whith very high contrast pictures is also one of the improvements!

But ... youre right when you say that the improvements are more obvious in P/S camera's.