Yep, it's a conspiracy.
Fast, long and cheap lenses really exist. NASA shot the whole moon landing in a studio at Grumman. Global warming is a myth.
JeffreyG "my bits and pieces are all hard" More info | Nov 10, 2007 20:56 | #16 Now I see what they're doing. They intentionally design the camera to increase the "F" number like that on you to try to get you spend more money for simply keeping the "F" number the same. Yep, it's a conspiracy. My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jngirbach/sets/
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jra Cream of the Crop 6,568 posts Likes: 35 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Ohio More info | Nov 10, 2007 20:59 | #17 JeffreyG wrote in post #4292416 It's not just cost, it's size. Johnny's lens would need to be a lot bigger to be f/2.8 at the long end. The aperture of a lens is expressed as a ratio of the lens pupil to the focal length. So long lenses that are fast also need to be big. So Johnny.....are those white telescopes you used to rant about starting to make more sense now? Yep...didn't think about that aspect of it....if you're looking for a smaller and lighter lens...a variable aperture lens would be the way to go.
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gjl711 Wait.. you can't unkill your own kill. 57,738 posts Likes: 4072 Joined Aug 2006 Location: Deep in the heart of Texas More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:01 | #18 JohnnyGalaga wrote in post #4292367 But why would tnhey make it like that? Wouldn't it be a lot better if you could just keep it at 2.8 no matter what? You can get constant f/2.8. There are quite a few of them. But as was pointed out in several posts, to make a lens like this costs $$$. For those who don't want or cant afford that type of lens, Canon offers other lenses which are less expensive. Not sure why, but call me JJ.
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ANGUS Cream of the Crop 6,897 posts Joined Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia... More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:02 | #19 If you are refering to your point and shoot in your sig, It would cost ALOT more to make it f2.8 the whole zoom range. Not only that it would be HUGE too. Angus
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CurtisN Master Flasher 19,129 posts Likes: 11 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Northern Illinois, US More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:03 | #20 Johnny, "If you're not having fun, your pictures will reflect that." - Joe McNally
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tekkie Goldmember 2,621 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2006 Location: Clarkston, MI More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:06 | #21 yeah exactly the 100-400 is ~1200 bucks just for the lens but I knew before I bought it that it was F4-5.6 it it was a constant F2.8 it would be easily 3x the costs and about the size of a rocket launcher Canon 1DMKII, 7D, 5DMKII, 1D MKII
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notsotechie Member 241 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: Calgary,Alberta,Canada More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:09 | #22 well yes and no if it did cleary state at certian focal lenght that would be at the widest point.
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JeffreyG "my bits and pieces are all hard" More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:13 | #23 yeah exactly the 100-400 is ~1200 bucks just for the lens but I knew before I bought it that it was F4-5.6 it it was a constant F2.8 it would be easily 3x the costs and about the size of a rocket launcher You wish. Do you know what a Nikon 200-400 f/4 costs? And you want 100mm more on the short end and another stop for a mere $4200? I don't think so. My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jngirbach/sets/
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jdizzle Darth Noink 69,419 posts Likes: 65 Joined Aug 2006 Location: Harvesting Nano crystals More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:29 | #24 Welcome to the world of DSLRs Johnny!
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notsotechie Member 241 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: Calgary,Alberta,Canada More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:33 | #25 Well now I see what kind of camera you have I guess there is a limation to what can be done if you do have manual seeting maybe you can experment with it.
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CurtisN Master Flasher 19,129 posts Likes: 11 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Northern Illinois, US More info | Nov 10, 2007 21:38 | #26 JohnnyGalaga wrote in post #4292553 But that makes the picture blurrier and with more grainy sand in it, so there's no way to win. Photography is all about compromise. I used my 18-55 (variable aperture) kit lens for a year and a half before I could afford to upgrade. In the mean time, the limitations of that lens helped me learn to think like a photographer. I even used it on some paid gigs and made some money with it. "If you're not having fun, your pictures will reflect that." - Joe McNally
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asysin2leads I'm kissing arse 6,329 posts Likes: 3 Joined Dec 2006 Location: Lebanon, OH More info | I just traded my 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 for the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 (thanks snsgraphics). I found out this past week that I am going to miss the extra reach, but will love the fixed f/2.8. I wouldn't put the Sigma 24-70 up against the Canon 24-70L in a head to head competition. This comes down to build quality and glass quality. Sigma offers a lower priced, quality lens. Kevin
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notsotechie Member 241 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: Calgary,Alberta,Canada More info | Nov 11, 2007 13:23 | #28 Can you please tell us exactly what kind of camera you are using.
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chuckandbob Member 186 posts Joined Apr 2006 Location: Chicago More info | Nov 11, 2007 13:35 | #29 JohnnyGalaga wrote in post #4292423 Now I see what they're doing. They intentionally design the camera to increase the "F" number like that on you to try to get you spend more money for simply keeping the "F" number the same. Why do you want to shoot at just 2.8? If it "gets darker" thats because the lens is stopping down - so you'll need a slower shutter speed. There's nothing wrong with your lens. Many of the world's greatest photos have been taken with variable fstops. Maybe a good idea to take a basic photography class. Canon 1D Mark III
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Jon,TheElder teaching fish to ride a bicycle 2,490 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2004 Location: Warren, Michigan More info | The salesperson didn't explain that to you I guess... There are certain logical expectations of gear at defined quality/price levels. Your expectations just happen to be out of phase with your budget. A 40D, a 30D, some nice glass and a great Shooting Partner.
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