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TS-E 24 vs. 16-35 or 17-40 ?

 
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Nov 18, 2007 08:14 |  #1

For perspective correction, shift vs. PS, which one is the IQ winner ?
For wide range shooting, which one is the useful winner ?
No architecture/ landscape lens on hand, which one is the best buy ?

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Nov 18, 2007 09:54 |  #2

1 TSE unless you want to lose much of the frame, then you could just put the camera back parallel and zoom way out to get the subject in the frame, then crop out excess or use the photoshop tools , and crop as well.

2. probably the zoom and the faster one, but I am not sure what "wide range shooting" actually means, it might be a term that means different things to different people.


3. TSE - it is wider if you use it to make a stitched panorama and higher resolution for those small details and for interiors, it is "the lens".

PS I have the 24 and the 17-40. The 24 gets more use from me by a lot (I don't think I have even used the zoom since I got the 24), but that is just me.




  
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Nov 18, 2007 17:47 |  #3

Another question:
Is TS-E 24 hand-held ? Is it easy to check shift effect in the view finder ?
Peopel said that it's quite soft, even PS can beat it, is it right ?

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Nov 18, 2007 18:27 as a reply to  @ PatrickChen's post |  #4

Soft? I wouldn't say so, some severe CA possibly. Take a look at post #56 here:

https://photography-on-the.net …42&highlight=24​tse&page=4

I have used it hand held but that is not optimal. Nor is hand held optimal for architecture or landscape work anyway.




  
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Nov 23, 2007 22:03 |  #5

Marsupilami:
http://www.fredmiranda​.com …ct=49&sort=7&ca​t=2&page=3 (external link)

is it true?




  
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Dec 01, 2007 23:50 |  #6

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk …/tilt_and_shift​_ts-e.html (external link)

doesn't look like it. i'm getting ready to order mine, so i can't speak from experience, but it seems like you're going to both lose pixel quality and have to crop stuff out if you rely on photoshop alone.


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Dec 02, 2007 10:57 |  #7

Even though the Canon 24 TSE is not reknown for superior IQ (Olympus 24mm PC lens is more widely sought among true architectural shooters due to its superiority for IQ) a PC lens is superior to PS corrections. PS must resort to pixel interpolation to guess what is in between two real pixels, when it 'adds space' at the narrow end. IQ really can suffer when the mount of perspective control exceeds modest levels. A photo posted on POTN some years ago illustrates that point quite well. And the northlight article in the link posted by Cathpah illustrates that point fairly well about 75% down the article.

PC correction and plane of focus tilt are both very evident in the viewfinder.

All PC/tilt lenses require that you meter BEFORE doing tilt/shift, when using a camera with TTL metering.


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Dec 02, 2007 11:15 |  #8

PatrickChen wrote in post #4340736 (external link)
Is TS-E 24 hand-held ?

Wilt wrote in post #4425247 (external link)
All PC/tilt lenses require that you meter BEFORE doing tilt/shift, when using a camera with TTL metering.

Do it right with both a tripod and hand held light meter.



  
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