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Nov 25, 2007 15:15 |  #1

I am very much a beginner when it comes to lighting. I want to try a Beginner Bee package ( AB400 ), to learn about lighting in a small studio. I have been on their website.....but don't fully understand how they set up & work.

I have an XT & a 420EX flash. Do the bee's work with what I have? If not.....What do I need? Could someone help me to understand how they connect & fire? If there are better alternatives for a beginner to learn lighting.....please recommend! I do know that I don't want continuous lighting.

My studio will be a 12' x 16' area. I would be taking head & shoulder shots.

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Nov 25, 2007 15:40 |  #2

Curtis might suggest that inexpensive hot shoe flashes (vivitar 285hv or sunpak 383) mounted on stands and using optical slaves or another triggering method would be an alternative, and also more portable and less expensive (based on cost per light, not total power output). I bought a single b1600 and when it arrives I will try to find time to play with it.


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Nov 25, 2007 16:36 |  #3

The 420EX is not going to add much t the mix. You can fire it in a manual mode with a cord or a radio slave, but you cannot control the power. It is just a full power blast every time.

You might experiment with using a reflector for the fill.

You will need some sort of CAMERA hotshoe to PC adapter to connect the sync cord that comes with the AB400. Did you order one of those with your AB kit (the XT has no camera chassis PC port)

Enjoy! Lon


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Nov 25, 2007 16:38 |  #4

Since your RebelXT has no PC socket, you should buy a hotshoe adapter for your camera like this.

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You can order it from Alienbees when you order your lights. The lights come with a PC cord that will plug into it.

If/when you add more lights to your set, the additional lights can fire with their built-in slaves so you only need one cord connection to the camera.

There are other ways to do it, including various radio slave systems, but you should always have the cord method as a backup.

Since your 420EX is E-TTL-only (no manual mode), there's no good way to use it and a studio strobe at the same time.

Before you invest more money in additional lights, radio systems backdrops, etc., I suggest a good light meter like the Sekonic L-358.

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Nov 25, 2007 16:54 as a reply to  @ Curtis N's post |  #5

Here is what I don't understand. If I attach the hotshoe adapter to my camera, and connect the sync cord to the adapter & the AB400, it will trigger the strobe when I press the shutter? So I don't need a flash on camera to use the AB's? Forgive my lack of knowledge.
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Nov 25, 2007 16:59 |  #6

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If I attach the hotshoe adapter to my camera, and connect the sync cord to the adapter & the AB400, it will trigger the strobe when I press the shutter? So I don't need a flash on camera to use the AB's?

Correct. You don't need a flash on your camera, and you're usually better off (in terms of lighting) without one.


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Nov 25, 2007 17:01 |  #7

You do not want a 420EX to do this. It will always produce a preflash that will confound the optical slave in the AB flash.

You want a cord running from your camera to the Alien Bee 400.

And, the only way to connect a cord on your XT is to get an CAMERA hotshoe to PC adapter to connect the cord (as the XT has no camera chassis PC connector).

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Nov 25, 2007 17:07 as a reply to  @ FlashZebra's post |  #8

Curtis & Lon.....Thank you so much. I like to think of myself as being pretty sharp, but I just could not figure this out! I will also be getting a light meter before I purchase the AB's.


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Nov 25, 2007 21:49 |  #9

And if you want the option to chose between cord and wireless you can get a cheap but fairly reliably wireless transmitter and receiver with built in PC connections (short cable included (easily extended). You can get them at eBay for like 25 bucks;
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Make sure you get the V2s version like the one I linked to as it works better with your 420EX.


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