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Quick review of the (Arca Style) NovoFlex Q=Base

 
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Nov 28, 2007 08:45 |  #1

Got the Novoflex Q=Base (external link) delivered yesterday as well as a Q=PLATE QPL 1 (smallest, square, plate).

The Q=Base comes in a box, with okay, but basic, instructions in German. (Then again; how hard can it be)

First impressions: The Q=Base is bigger and heavier than I'd thought.

Feels like good build quality.
Nice finish, smooth operation.

The Q=Plate looks well made as well, and has the benefit of being about half the price of a RRS plate over here. IMHO $50,- for a bit of machined aluminium is over the top...

One drawback could be that it's not supposed to work with an RRS lever release QR clamp. Strange, since we are talking about the Arca Standard, right? What's so hard about standardisation? It's just a set of numbers to be applied... Oh well.

The plate screws to a tripod or monopod easily enough, and offers two mounting holes: On 1/4" and one 3/8" with a 1/4" bushing inserted. There is also an anti-twist screw.
The 1/4" hole is in the center of the plate (so off center of the mounted plate), the 3/8" hole is right under the center of a mounted plate, so off center of the Q=Base.

When mounted to a Manfrotto 449 Monopod, it looks like this:

IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0001.jpg

The locking ring has a (screw in) handhold: 4 positions posible

Very nice IMO.

It works a bit like a Manfrotto CR2 QR: If you put a plate on it, a lever is depressed (big metal knob under the words "Q=base"; The little pin is a Safety pin.), and the plate snaps shut. The plate is then tightened down turning the big ring.

To open, you press the blue knobs; The one one the back, opposite to the movable jaw (with the word "Q=Base") presses this jaw forward, the one on the front is the release to allow you to fully open the clamp.

Other side: The hole in the top is were the anti-twist screw is.
IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0002.jpg

Next, I attached the Q-plate to my 80-200L, and gave it a try:


I got a square plate, since I wanted to be able to mount my 80-200L any way I choose: QR along the lens *or* 'film' axis. Normal lens plates force you to rotate the orientation of the QR, depending on whether you mount a lens or a camera...
This proved to be not completely trouble free...

Mounted, not locked down:
IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0003.jpg

Mounted, locked down:
IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0004.jpg

Works like a charm!

The square plate allows to fit the lens in either direction on the QR. I wanted this, since I don't want to turn the monopod a quarter turn if I switch from Lplate to tripod mount.
Not a problem with the QR straight on the monopod, but a hassle when a Manfrotto #3232 swivel head is used.

The plate is mounted this far forward on the tripod ring to get (half) decent clearing to operate the lock. Not so nice.

IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0005.jpg

It is also needed to allow my 1D2 with RRS B57-L to rotate...
(In the pic, I fitted the B-57L to my Eos 1-n. Not a good fit, since the 1D is thicker, but it get's the idea across, and I needed the 1D to take the images ;))

IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0006.jpg

Continued in part 2....

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Nov 28, 2007 08:58 |  #2

The (lack of) clearance as seen from the underside:

IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0007.jpg

It's workable, if your fingers aren't too thick. But only just...

The RRS L plate fits the Q=base more tightly then the Novoflex plates: About a quarter turn is needed to lock it, where the Novoflex plates needed half a turn:
IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0008.jpg

One last thing I came across, is that the locking pin will just touch one of the indentations in the RRS L plate in some cases, preventing lockdown. A bit of work with a Dremel should solve that:

I filed away a bit, which helped, but you can still see the indentations the locking pin makes:
IMAGE: http://www.moonglade.net/rene/POTN/071128Qbase/content/bin/images/large/rhd_20071128_Qbase_0009.jpg

I must note that the lack of clearance is off course due to my using the QR in a not intended way, *and* having an L plate on the camera, adding bulk: Normally a longer lens plate is used, forcing you to rotate the QR 90 degrees, preventing the problem.

With the plate in the above position, and the QR used "as should", there is enough clearance to work quickly and easily with it, even with the L bracket attached.

The safety pin interfering with the L bracket is a (small) problem, however it could be remedied easily by either taking away a bit of meterial in the bracket, or by rotating the clamp 180 degrees.... The last isn't an option for me however, since that would
1) give less clearance, preventing the use of the 80-200L with tripod ring alltogether
2) Make me use my index finger to press open the clamp instead of my thumb. Much harder...


All in all:

I like the QR clamp, but I don't know if I will be able to use it as I intended (not being forced to rotate it when switching from Lplate to tripod ring).

A big plus IMO is that it is 'Automatic' (in the same sense as a Manfrotto QR), and that it will fit *any* arca style plate (AFAIK). Unlike the RRS Lever QR, that won't fit some brands.

I might give a screw clamp a try one day, but first I'll give this combo a chance...

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Nov 30, 2007 09:02 |  #3

Okay. Tiny update.
Seems like at least some people are reading this ;)

Used the combo yesterday for the first time. (after using a Dremel to remove some material from the RRS L plate)

Very impressed. Works like a charm with no problems whatsoever.
Clearance seems to be enough for my fingers, so I can add a Manfrotto swivel head later without much problems :D

Works as fast as the manfrotto QR, yet feels (way) more stable.


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Feb 22, 2008 11:36 |  #4

Another tiny update: I seem to have managed to bang the head into a wall or so, so a bit of the non moving jaw bent in a bit, making it impossible to lock the QR.
When trying to bend it back, the bent bit broke off, but it works flawlessly again. I did use a file to smoothen the sharp edges a bit ;)


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Feb 22, 2008 13:07 |  #5

I'm following this thread, so please continue to post updates. I'm a little confused, so please forgive me. I have an RRS plate on my 70-200 and am thinking of getting an L plate for my 5D w/grip and am wondering if this mounting plate will let me mount onto my tripod without dremel tool, modification, etc. I agree with you that RRS charges way too much for some of their stuff. I haven't had great experience with their customer service so if I can find a substitue mounting plate, I'd be super happy.

Can you please share where you got your Novaflex stuff from?


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Feb 23, 2008 07:30 |  #6

I got the Novoflex from foto konijnenberg (external link) ;)

The 'dremel mod' was needed because of the 'anti sliding pin' (or whatever it's called) on the Novoflex QR. (The tiny pin in the first image).
I don't think it's an issue on other Arca QR heads. (On my Markins QR, the anti sliding pin is in a different position, not causing trouble).


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Dec 11, 2011 13:55 |  #7

Very much belated update.
I just realized that the L-plate on my Mk3 (on there for a few years already) didn't need the "dremel mod" since the underside is different. It fits without any problems whatsoever…

Differences can be seen here: http://reallyrightstuf​f.com …NOT-Mk-III%2fIV%29&key=it (external link) vs http://reallyrightstuf​f.com …r-Mk-III-%26-Mk-IV&key=it (external link)

Still happy with this QR on my monopod :)


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