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What is a 18% grey card

 
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Dec 01, 2007 19:33 |  #1

Hi guys,
What is a grey card? What does it do? Is it used for "exposure levels" or "white balance"? What is the significance of 18%. Can you suggest relevant articles on this subject. I appreciate any help you can give, thanks.




  
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Dec 01, 2007 19:45 |  #2

White balance, although some use it for exposure too, but this only works if the subject is quite uniform in "brightness" (no highlites, no blacks).

18% is neutral - not white, not black.

I use a white "card" extensively for flower shots where the colour balance can be critical (although my "white card" is a fold-up cloth). One side is white, the other 18% grey.


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Dec 01, 2007 20:28 |  #3

LIGHT METERING = The basics of metering systems (external link)

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Dec 01, 2007 21:20 |  #4

An 18% gray card is theoretically a representative of 'the average scene brightness', so it serves first to be a good metering substitute when the actual subject is 'not typical', such as a white polar bear or white bride in white wedding gown, or black cat or black groom dressed in a black tux. Second use, and what most digital users are familiar with, the gray card can also serve as a color neutral patch for White Brightness post processing or custom WB settings in camera.


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Dec 01, 2007 21:37 |  #5

Glenn NK wrote in post #4421913 (external link)
White balance, although some use it for exposure too, but this only works if the subject is quite uniform in "brightness" (no highlites, no blacks).

18% is neutral - not white, not black.


If you're talking an 18% Kodak Gray Card--which is probably the most common one--it is used for exposure, and NOT white balance, as it is not spectrally neutral.




  
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Dec 01, 2007 21:49 |  #6

18% gray cards are primarily used for exposure. They are also white on the back. The latest versions of the cards are in fact color neutral and work quite well for white balance (custom white balance doesn't really care if the subject is white or not, but rather that it's color neutral).

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Dec 01, 2007 22:12 |  #7

For a technical discussion, see:
http://doug.kerr.home.​att.net/pumpkin/Scene_​Reflectance.pdf (external link)
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http://doug.kerr.home.​att.net …/Exposure_meter​ing_18.pdf (external link)

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Dec 02, 2007 01:00 |  #8

Peter Pawinski wrote in post #4422517 (external link)
If you're talking an 18% Kodak Gray Card--which is probably the most common one--it is used for exposure, and NOT white balance, as it is not spectrally neutral.

Not Kodak; I was referring to my fold-up white balance disk (made by Color Balance Coach). I use the grey side but have tried the white side and get the same results. It fits in my shirt pocket.


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Dec 02, 2007 02:59 |  #9

Glenn NK wrote in post #4423478 (external link)
Not Kodak; I was referring to my fold-up white balance disk (made by Color Balance Coach). I use the grey side but have tried the white side and get the same results. It fits in my shirt pocket.

Just wanted to make clear for others that not all gray cards are made the same.




  
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Dec 02, 2007 04:06 |  #10

Hey, thanks everyone for your time and help, I appreciate it greatly.




  
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