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May 23, 2010 15:42 |  #10711

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btw there is a picture that has been floating around the web for a few years now, of Sasha lighting a cigarette for someone in the crowd. Have you seen it? It kind of has a cult status and is used in mockery at various sites. There are also other far less than flattering pics of Sasha floating around. I feel like these might be other reasons they are very careful about photos.

Mostly brought up a lot since it's from ages past when DJs played smaller clubs and the booths had no expensive equipment like laptops or extra gear that could be unplugged, so someone could be right next to the DJ. So more of a good pic for older clubgoers to reminisce about the old days.

It still happens a lot though, at Cologne in Germany, it's a very similar setup with a DJ booth in the corner and people are right up to the DJ, so people were lighting Deadmau5's cigarettes regularly from over the booth.

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So tonight we were supposed to shoot Sasha at our home base of Spybar, and I must say I have never been more disappointed with a DJ in my entire nightlife career. With the top 4 or 5 night life photographers in Chicago in attendance the only photographer allowed to take any pictures of Sasha was srika (totally understandable Ruben is incredible), even the house photographer was denied access. I tried taking a crowd shot from about 40 feet away from the DJ booth, when his manager shined a laser pointer in my eye to get me to stop. I feel that if your going to pay a DJ 5 figures to play a venue, he should at least give a brief period to snag some photos. As far as being super anal about photos Sasha puts deadmau5 to shame.

The issue is split between Sasha's new rig as well as POSSIBLY his new tour manager (assuming it's the same one when he was at Avalon back in March).

His rig has that low video screen behind him, so its tough to get a pic behind him without blocking it. When he was at Avalon, the new tour manager guy was not allowing anyone in there for a second. Luckally the guy who helped make the MAVEN was there, so both him and Sasha had a few words with him to let me go in there to at least get a good fisheye shot with the maven.

The tour manager doesn't understand how photography works, one of the very few tour managers I have met that is clueless about photography. He's one of the guys that assumes that no matter what the camera is, you can press a button and the picture magically comes out perfectly every time. So when I was going for that shot, the first batch of strobes I didn't get a good enough picture so I got the usual comment "Hey, don't you think you have enough pictures?" to which I replied "I don't have any good ones, so i'm not leaving until I get a good one".

Also, the major part is the new video rig. Of course everyone wants focus on the rig with the DJ, rather than just the DJ, so most management would rather have pics of the big video pizzaz with the DJ in the middle, rather than a more intimate shot, so I'm guessing a DJ gig without that rig will be back to "normal" photography. Which is why for the Deadmau5 dates with the cube, even i'm not allowed to take pics on most of the stages :)

Sasha himself isn't anal about photos too much anymore. He was back in 2005-era when I started shooting because anytime even a flash went off, he would go in a rage. Thats what forced me to get a 50 f/1.4 and call it my "Sasha Lens" so I wouldn't make him mad, but shortly after that he wasn't a crazy partier anymore and got married, so he calmed down immensely.

What did Deadmau5 do that was anal about photos BTW? I can probably explain the reasoning.


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May 23, 2010 17:06 |  #10712

Very interesting reasoning, that seams to make a lot of sense. Although for this show there was no video screen, it took place in a very small club with the crowd right up to the DJ booth. literally nothing was changed from any other night at Spybar. I did originally use two flashes right in front of him but my camera misfired so no strobe actually went off. Stupid move on my part, I wasn't thinking right I'm usually much more respectful. I just seam to to be getting into it with tour managers lately. Last night I was shooting as the house photographer for paul van dyk, I was well aware of all his rules from the last show I shot him at (no pictures in front of him, no flash, don't get to close, ect), I was literally 40 feet in back of him out of the way, with a 70-200. when all of a sudden his tour manager walks up and grabs my lens, bumping my eye with my camera, and starts ranting and raving. It took every bit of strength not to punch that guy out. I don't care if he tells me not to shoot that's fine, but never touch me or my equipment like that. As for deadmau5 Ive just always thought that while hes playing hes a very private guy. Like I had heard rumors that for his shows there are different lines that no one is to cross, and Ive noticed at least here in Chicago his stages are always elevated and in the back of the stage, so really the mouse head is the only thing you can see. Also every time he comes to Chicago, our access has been super limited, way more then usual. So with all of these things I came to the conclusion that aside from your photos he really isn't a fan of photographers.


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May 23, 2010 17:48 as a reply to  @ post 10222298 |  #10713

hopefully i get some motivation back soon... ive been soooo bored lately!


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May 23, 2010 17:56 as a reply to  @ Christopher.Sullivan's post |  #10714

.+1


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May 23, 2010 18:11 |  #10715

PVD/Paul Oakenfold

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May 23, 2010 18:47 |  #10716

Shea.Flynn wrote in post #10232567 (external link)
As for deadmau5 Ive just always thought that while hes playing hes a very private guy. Like I had heard rumors that for his shows there are different lines that no one is to cross, and Ive noticed at least here in Chicago his stages are always elevated and in the back of the stage, so really the mouse head is the only thing you can see. Also every time he comes to Chicago, our access has been super limited, way more then usual. So with all of these things I came to the conclusion that aside from your photos he really isn't a fan of photographers.

Ahh, well mostly just due to stage setup, so the more things that go on stage, the less people can go on there. Chicago was a bit back than most, but im guessing it's to make sure the people in the very front could see all the visuals.

I think it's the usual stuff mostly, I think the worst offenders are the paparazzi constant flashers that get up close to the side or in front and go crazy. Last time I saw a bad one was in Spain on New Years, this one guy was just going to town and pissed everyone off.


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May 23, 2010 19:03 |  #10717

My first attempt at night club like lighting and setting. Album release party for Jay Cabassa.
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Dying to learn 2nd shutter effects you guys have mastered!
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May 23, 2010 19:24 |  #10718

shea was tariq in with oakenfold? hes a good guy to deal with, if you get on the right side of him he will help out alot.




  
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May 23, 2010 21:40 |  #10719

bighec45 wrote in post #10233046 (external link)
My first attempt at night club like lighting and setting. Album release party for Jay Cabassa.
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Dying to learn 2nd shutter effects you guys have mastered!
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May 23, 2010 23:21 |  #10720

has anybody ever used one of the wide sigma primes in a club, like the 20mm 1.8 and the 24mm 1.8? i'm thinking they could be the solution to lack of light issues...




  
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May 24, 2010 00:22 |  #10721

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=yap'in;10232101]Hey guys ... haven't posted photos for awhile, but i've been watching you guys closely ...

Trying a new processing to the photos ... played with the presets in Lightroom and ended up with my own preset.

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personally.. I'm not keen, they look far too over exposed
but thats just my opinion..


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May 24, 2010 00:26 |  #10722

Rukes wrote in post #10232959 (external link)
I think it's the usual stuff mostly, I think the worst offenders are the paparazzi constant flashers that get up close to the side or in front and go crazy. Last time I saw a bad one was in Spain on New Years, this one guy was just going to town and pissed everyone off.

+1

I see that a lot, a particularly bad one was a photographer coming onto the stage and standing infront of the DJ, took some shots, then turned around and took some shots of the crowd, blocking everyones view for a good couple of minutes, then just wanders back and forth across the stage every now and again, I mean come on have some respect!


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May 24, 2010 02:05 |  #10723

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personally.. I'm not keen, they look far too over exposed
but thats just my opinion..

+1.


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May 24, 2010 07:47 |  #10724

paranoid1 wrote in post #10234235 (external link)
has anybody ever used one of the wide sigma primes in a club, like the 20mm 1.8 and the 24mm 1.8? i'm thinking they could be the solution to lack of light issues...

I used canon 24mm 1.4 and yea its an issue

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May 24, 2010 09:38 |  #10725

Rukes wrote in post #10232959 (external link)
Ahh, well mostly just due to stage setup, so the more things that go on stage, the less people can go on there. Chicago was a bit back than most, but im guessing it's to make sure the people in the very front could see all the visuals.

With big acts with elaborate staging and equipment, I always expect "rock rules" to be enforced. Like, it's not a DJ set, it's more of a concert, and that one should not count on being able to get in the booth or even remotely close. Like, you wouldn't be allowed to get two feet away from Trent Reznor. Tiƫsto's shows are like that. During the tour, I got a few booth shots, but even though I knew I could do more, I stayed back out of courtesy and just used a tele or whatever.

The few DM5 shows, same deal. If I couldn't get what I needed from 30-40 feet off, I didn't bother. Some wide stage shots and I dipped.

Sasha? Yeah, he's always been sensitive, but on occasion he'll flex if you're quiet about it. The one time he played Space down here (never played again since the show tanked), I just hung to the side in the booth and had the tech run some of my lighting cues when needed. I also "got lucky" as his usual tour manager was indisposed and he had a friend filling in who knew enough to let me do my thing, since I was in no one's way. My flash never left my pocket.

The one thing that sucks though is if you're in a place that allows hordes of shooters and by the time you get there, everyone's pissed off and nothing is being allowed since the guys prior to you are blazing away with their flashes and annoying everyone. Happened once with Paul Van Dyk down here. I got lucky though since he and his management know me and know I'm quiet about it. Even then, I did what I had to and left in five minutes.


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