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Dec 09, 2007 10:20 |  #1

we need more badminton photos here.

here are a few that i took during the 2007 China Open. enjoy!

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Dec 09, 2007 21:11 |  #2

nice...u have some more??

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Dec 10, 2007 05:07 |  #3

Great pictures. But why tilt them?


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Dec 10, 2007 06:28 |  #4

khall wrote in post #4474284 (external link)
Great pictures. But why tilt them?


i agree.......any reason?


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Dec 10, 2007 07:33 |  #5

I can't answer for the photographer, but it works for me. The tilt removes a lot of wasted space out of the frame, but it must be done correctly, and not just tilted for the sake of it. There must be a strong relationship between the frame and the subject. It is something I use quite a bit in other areas of sports photography.


  
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Dec 10, 2007 11:23 |  #6

fatphotographer wrote in post #4474686 (external link)
I can't answer for the photographer, but it works for me. The tilt removes a lot of wasted space out of the frame, but it must be done correctly, and not just tilted for the sake of it. There must be a strong relationship between the frame and the subject. It is something I use quite a bit in other areas of sports photography.

thanks all.

to answer the "why tilt?" question. there are really 3 different reason.

1) as fatphotographer says, it helps fills the frame.
2) i was using prime (50mm, 135mm mainly) and when a situation comes, tilting is the only way to get everything in. in fact, all the tilted ones you see are uncropped. prime was used because of the pretty poor lighting and the desire to get higher shutter speeds for action shots.
3) sometimes it gives a different dynamics to the photo if not overly abused.


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Dec 10, 2007 11:37 |  #7

tamko wrote in post #4472456 (external link)
nice...u have some more??

alan'07

i have tons but POTN only allow 8 photos posted per thread. you can see more in these other threads:

http://www.badmintonce​ntral.com/forums/showt​hread.php?t=49941 (external link)

http://www.badmintonce​ntral.com/forums/showt​hread.php?t=50161 (external link)

http://www.badmintonce​ntral.com/forums/showt​hread.php?t=50139 (external link)


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Dec 10, 2007 13:14 |  #8

I like them but you should post larger images. They deserve it!


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Dec 11, 2007 11:45 |  #9

mtonsbeek wrote in post #4476615 (external link)
I like them but you should post larger images. They deserve it!

thanks for the complement.. next time i will post larger ones. :)


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Dec 12, 2007 22:20 as a reply to  @ jmpsmash's post |  #10

jmpsmash wrote in post #4469069 (external link)
we need more badminton photos here.

here are a few that i took during the 2007 China Open. enjoy!

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I live the ones with tilt! especially these two. it adds something special to the shot. Well done and keep them coming:D


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Dec 13, 2007 06:49 |  #11

lance v wrote in post #4494485 (external link)
I live the ones with tilt! especially these two. it adds something special to the shot. Well done and keep them coming



I agree.
I have had to study why some pictures work, and why some don’t, so that I can convey a thought process to a student, my conclusion is-

The top shot works because your eye sees the player in a balanced in relationship to the frame. The player's left arm and leg are equal distances from the edge of the frame, the same with the right arm and leg. The fact that the player is leaning forward, doesn't matter, your brain has already accepted the composition. The angle of the background is secondary.

The second shot works because your eyes almost always look at faces in a vertical format in front of you. The face of the player in this shot is almost exactly as your eyes would normally see a face, and your brain initially accepts it. The rest of the frame is secondary, but thought has gone into the composition and content.

If your eyes and brain automatically pick up on something that they find familiar, the picture gets subconsciously accepted, and then you can decide for yourself whether or not the rest of the shot works - or whether it distracts from the shot.
Lots of people take angled shots, some people make them work without knowing how or why, others can never get it right.
What thought process the jmpsmash goes through before setting up a shot, I don’t know. All I can say is that the pictures work for me.


  
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Dec 13, 2007 12:33 |  #12

fatphotographer wrote in post #4495973 (external link)
If your eyes and brain automatically pick up on something that they find familiar, the picture gets subconsciously accepted, and then you can decide for yourself whether or not the rest of the shot works - or whether it distracts from the shot.
Lots of people take angled shots, some people make them work without knowing how or why, others can never get it right.
What thought process the jmpsmash goes through before setting up a shot, I don’t know. All I can say is that the pictures work for me.

thanks for the analysis!

as this is from an actual tournament there weren't really much setup to speak of. there is a visualization of what type of image i wanted to achieve but due to the speed and unpredictability of the action, very few actually ends up exactly what i think they would look like. in the end, much of the work comes when sorting and filtering many different photos, and the ability to pick out the ones that closest to what was visualized and also to pick out ones that is visually pleasing even if it doesn't match what was visualized.


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