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Mar 27, 2008 18:34 |  #9691

ssidiv3r wrote in post #5205349 (external link)
Looks a bit too dark on his arms

Again, IT WAS QUICK.


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Mar 27, 2008 18:35 |  #9692

You also only shot at 1/250th. Kill the flash bump up the shutter and work with your available light looks like you had plenty of it, does not take a lot to bounce it to where you need it.




  
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Mar 27, 2008 18:43 |  #9693

FuryMe wrote in post #5205360 (external link)
You also only shot at 1/250th. Kill the flash bump up the shutter and work with your available light looks like you had plenty of it, does not take a lot to bounce it to where you need it.

I only used the flash on the indoor ones, and at the time I didn't bring anything with me to reflect light with.


Not one I was concidering (for obvious lighting reasons) but edited a bit to darken. Did some slight dodging to the eyes, side of face and arm


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Mar 27, 2008 19:12 |  #9694

ssidiv3r wrote in post #5205264 (external link)
There wasn't much I could do about the F-stop on many of them without having them TOTALLY blown out no matter how much I wanted to blur the backgrounds

I was going off of this response. If you are using F2.8 or so you can speed your shutter way up to 1/1000, this will take care of your blowout situation without the polarizer. You EXiF Data showed 1/250th which would blow out your highlights, watch the histogram and adjust accordingly.




  
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Mar 27, 2008 19:45 |  #9695

Well thanks for posting the pics kitten.

I got home from work swept off the roof (leaves and litter) helped my wife hack a vacuum cleaner, we got it from the thrift store for 8 bucks.... but it had about 5 pounds of dust/dirt on it so we had to take it all apart down to the motor, now she has it put back together, and it works except the switch to turn it on is malfunctioning a little so we will have to take it apart again and see if we can get it to work better.

well. hope you all have a good evening. I am gonna get a shower clean up and get some sleep!


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Mar 27, 2008 19:46 |  #9696

oh yeah, and fury, one of these days I am going to count all the different avatars & sigs that you have in a day :P


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Mar 27, 2008 19:47 |  #9697

PiRho wrote in post #5205799 (external link)
oh yeah, and fury, one of these days I am going to count all the different avatars & sigs that you have in a day :P


Good luck with that one. ;)




  
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Mar 27, 2008 20:02 as a reply to  @ Chet's post |  #9698

Jeff Allred wrote in post #5205096 (external link)
Play with the DOF a little bit. These all look too much like a p&s. The colors are flat as well.

I concur. :)

ssidiv3r wrote in post #5205230 (external link)
Damn, talk about a hard croud to please :(

You asked. You can't learn without feedback.

ssidiv3r wrote in post #5205247 (external link)
Wow, finally some actual advice. Thanks Jon.

I guess I could try touching them up a bit but I want to do as little editing as possible

Ummm, no offense to Job, but several of us DID say some similar things. But, I guess I'm not good enough to give advice.

Jeff Allred wrote in post #5205251 (external link)
I gave some actual advice.

Me too.


Kitten, not to say, "I told you so," but we all told you that getting a pair of L's wasn't going to solve all of your photography woes. You did well for the conditions you had. Chalk it up to a learning experience, take what we've said and get out and shoot some more. Don't be offended because your first try was close to a flop.


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Mar 27, 2008 20:13 as a reply to  @ sevillafox's post |  #9699

Ok, here's an edit for you. I cropped, did some quick cloning of the leaf and twig on the bottom right (crappy job I know), messed with levels a bit and played with saturation. Oh, and dodged his face a bit.


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Mar 27, 2008 20:24 |  #9700

Hey Tiff how come you're never on yahoo anymore?


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Mar 27, 2008 20:51 |  #9701

Jeff Allred wrote in post #5206053 (external link)
Hey Tiff how come you're never on yahoo anymore?

Dunno. I just never sign in because you're the only one I really talk to and we've both been busy. Why, do you miss me? :)


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Mar 27, 2008 20:53 |  #9702

I always miss you. :) I know we've both been busy. Anytime there's a pregnancy involved that can spell disaster LOL.


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Mar 27, 2008 21:20 as a reply to  @ SoaringUSAEagle's post |  #9703

FuryMe wrote in post #5205585 (external link)
I was going off of this response. If you are using F2.8 or so you can speed your shutter way up to 1/1000, this will take care of your blowout situation without the polarizer. You EXiF Data showed 1/250th which would blow out your highlights, watch the histogram and adjust accordingly.

Ok, thanks. I'm not really sure why I didn't increase the shutter speed

sevillafox wrote in post #5205916 (external link)
You asked. You can't learn without feedback.

True enough

Ummm, no offense to Job, but several of us DID say some similar things. But, I guess I'm not good enough to give advice.

Do you mean "Jon"?

Kitten, not to say, "I told you so," but we all told you that getting a pair of L's wasn't going to solve all of your photography woes. You did well for the conditions you had. Chalk it up to a learning experience, take what we've said and get out and shoot some more. Don't be offended because your first try was close to a flop.

I know I know....close to a flop?!

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Ok, here's an edit for you. I cropped, did some quick cloning of the leaf and twig on the bottom right (crappy job I know), messed with levels a bit and played with saturation. Oh, and dodged his face a bit.

I still just don't think the skin tone is just right. I'll find some time to go take more with him and hopefully do a better job


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Mar 27, 2008 21:29 |  #9704

sevillafox wrote in post #5205916 (external link)
I concur. :)



You asked. You can't learn without feedback.



Ummm, no offense to Job, but several of us DID say some similar things. But, I guess I'm not good enough to give advice.



Me too.


Kitten, not to say, "I told you so," but we all told you that getting a pair of L's wasn't going to solve all of your photography woes. You did well for the conditions you had. Chalk it up to a learning experience, take what we've said and get out and shoot some more. Don't be offended because your first try was close to a flop.

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I only used the flash on the indoor ones, and at the time I didn't bring anything with me to reflect light with.


Not one I was concidering (for obvious lighting reasons) but edited a bit to darken. Did some slight dodging to the eyes, side of face and arm

you were way to liberal with that dodge tool. You can visibly see where you dodged.


Heres the deal man. You bought a dSLR. played with it a little. Didnt like what came out of it. Bought two of the greatest zoom lenses. Still what cam out wasnt very good. What crucial step is missing? The learning part. Yes learning consists of going out and playing with the camera trying new things but you also need to learn some of the key parts to photography in order to not get P&S type shots. I have only 3 lenses one of which is one of canons worst lenses. I still havent bought a nice L lens because i use the lenses i have until my skill is developed enough for expensive glass to matter (now im jsut saving up the dough). The important thing is that you can make great shots with the lenses you had and you can make crappy shots with the Ls. The most important thing is your knowledge and ability. Take a look at the Talk about photography section, start looking in the photo-sharing sections (especially people, performing arts and wedding because i feel there will be the most how-to info in those places). It essential to learn the science and techniques behind photography, you cant just go out and be good without learning. Try googling info about photography that could really help. You have the worlds biggest library at your fingertips, utilize it. Also check these out-

http://www.amazon.com …an-Peterson/dp/0817437126 (external link)

http://www.amazon.co.u​k …did=0AZT5PSKT7Q​16BNDD8C1& (external link)

In addition to these books go to the bookstore, find the photography section and just pick up a book and start reading it. You may find it to be useless or the book may be really interesting and full of great information. Go through a few of them. You may be skeptical but i find i learn something new every time i do this. (go when you know you have time to kill, nothings worse than sitting in a bookstore knowing youre missing out hanging with your friends or something really fun :D)

Hope i helped steer you in the right direction.


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Mar 27, 2008 21:36 |  #9705

ssidiv3r wrote in post #5206438 (external link)
I know I know....close to a flop?!


I still just don't think the skin tone is just right. I'll find some time to go take more with him and hopefully do a better job

Please undertand I was working with a quick edit from a small JPEG. You have the RAW files, you do something with it. I was just showing you an example of something you could do to improve the shot you already took. After all, you can polish a turd all you want but it's still a turd. And sorry, this wasn't the most successful shoot but it gave you a lot to learn from. Try again, mess up again, learn more, repeat. It's how you learn. Don't be offended as we are all just trying to help. :)


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