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Dec 12, 2007 03:16 |  #1

Processor, quad core 2.4ghz with 4 gig of ram, or Dual core 2.66 ghz with a 8 gig of ram.
These two options are almost identical in price, so this is my question. Overclocking is almost a definite here.

I am currently running an AMD system, but I want to build my PC to run an Apple OSX. I recently bought a Macbook, and I love OSX Leopard. My understanding is that you need to have an Intel chip in order to run OSX natively on a PC system. Can this OSX hack even work on an Intel 4 core PC, I know they have it running on theirs but I am not sure if it work with mine.

Being overseas currently, I am having troubles doing the proper research needed for so many questions. Newegg has really been my only resource for research. I only get about 30 minutes a day on the internet, and it is extremely slow.

I am building this system for longevity, and I want to spend the money now, and not have to upgrade for a while.

Also, I plan on upgrading my current 7200 rpm OS and programs hard drive to a 15k rpm one, is it that much of a difference? Or should I just go with a 10k rpm one?

I figured it would be best to put it in the RAW & post processing because it had more to do with computers, and I thought I would get more hits. If it is wrong, please move it.

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Dec 12, 2007 08:19 |  #2

Only problem is when you are running a hacked up version of OSX to run on a PC you can't just do normal 'updates' there is a slew of thing to go through to install secruity updates/fixes etc.

Any reason you want to build a PC to run OSX insteas of just getting another mac?

What are you doing with the pc to think you need 15k or even 10k HD over a standard 7200 rpm drive? Photo editing will see no beifit really in it. The larger your files the more scatch space you'll want vs higher spindle speed.

I built a PC cpuple months ago and did some in depth HD testing. The WD 750gb sata drive out benchmarked the raptor 150gb drives by a good number. I even tries raptor 150gb in raid0 (2 drives) and the 750gb drive in all test was 5-8% faster. The technology WD put int he 750gb drive is great.

I concur with his findings:
http://www.tomshardwar​e.com …/record-making_hard_disk/ (external link)

I built a $3500 PC 2 molnths ago then I bought a 15" MBP, ran XP with fusion and Lepord and the MBP ran windows than my $3500 PC and this is no lie. So I traded my new $3500 PC with a Dell 30" LCD for a 17" MBP with high def screen. I am going to use the 17" as my DTR and travel with my 15", that is how impressed I am with the mac now.

I built that PC with ;arts a gamers has wet dreams about and determined I am just not in to gaming as much as I use to and saw ZERO benifit in this kind of hardware for Photo editing, video editing and creative work.

If you game build a gaming PC and run XP, if you dont game and really like OSX just get a MAC your much better off.


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Dec 13, 2007 02:24 |  #3

I wanted to build it to run two monitors, I cants afford a Mac Pro. I would buy a new I mac but I figured I could build a more powerul PC to run OSX for cheaper than lower spec iMac. I still have do more research on the Hacked OS running in native though.

I'll look into just running raid0 than. Thanks. I do game but not seriously, I get bored with them really quickly.

I like the mac os, it is awesome, so much easier than any Microsoft system.

Thanks for the help.

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Only problem is when you are running a hacked up version of OSX to run on a PC you can't just do normal 'updates' there is a slew of thing to go through to install secruity updates/fixes etc.

Any reason you want to build a PC to run OSX insteas of just getting another mac?

What are you doing with the pc to think you need 15k or even 10k HD over a standard 7200 rpm drive? Photo editing will see no beifit really in it. The larger your files the more scatch space you'll want vs higher spindle speed.

I built a PC cpuple months ago and did some in depth HD testing. The WD 750gb sata drive out benchmarked the raptor 150gb drives by a good number. I even tries raptor 150gb in raid0 (2 drives) and the 750gb drive in all test was 5-8% slower. The technology WD put int he 750gb drive is great.

I concur with his findings:
http://www.tomshardwar​e.com …/record-making_hard_disk/ (external link)

I built a $3500 PC 2 molnths ago then I bought a 15" MBP, ran XP with fusion and Lepord and the MBP ran windows than my $3500 PC and this is no lie. So I traded my new $3500 PC with a Dell 30" LCD for a 17" MBP with high def screen. I am going to use the 17" as my DTR and travel with my 15", that is how impressed I am with the mac now.

I built that PC with ;arts a gamers has wet dreams about and determined I am just not in to gaming as much as I use to and saw ZERO benifit in this kind of hardware for Photo editing, video editing and creative work.

If you game build a gaming PC and run XP, if you dont game and really like OSX just get a MAC your much better off.


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Dec 13, 2007 14:38 |  #4

So you want to build a computer to run a hacked and illegal copy of an OS? ;)


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Dec 13, 2007 23:25 |  #5

Double Negative wrote in post #4498723 (external link)
So you want to build a computer to run a hacked and illegal copy of an OS? ;)

Correct.

Basically I consider it an unfair play to solder in the processor of you computer so it can never be changed. Also the fact that you can never change your graphics card because that is what apple wants.

So until they make a version of their OS to run on a PC, make hay while the sun shines, as they say.

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Dec 14, 2007 14:37 |  #6

There are -serious- compatibility problems trying to run OSX on a built system. It will be far more trouble than it's worth. Good luck.


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Dec 14, 2007 15:02 |  #7

You could probably make this work, but you said you want this for longevity. This will not be the way to go. Either build it as a Windows box or buy a Mac. The iMacs are very fast and you can do monitor spanning with them. I have experience with the iMac and a Mac Pro that I own.

Here to tell you that for most things the iMac is just as fast as the Mac Pro (most things, not all by far).


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Dec 14, 2007 20:11 |  #8

If you're building a PC to run the Mac OS, then it's more hurdles to jump through than you think.

In the long run (if you want to avoid headaches), it's better to simply get the Mac... though my PC running Vista x64 w/ 4gb is doing fine =P


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Dec 16, 2007 01:44 |  #9

I am currently running that OS with 3 gigs of only 2.5gb of ddr400 ram. My current laptop does pretty good for itself on 2gig of ddr2 667 ram.

I am really liking the OS that Apple built, but I cant let them justify umpteen thousand dollars for a Mac Pro tower. It is really expensive, and I can build it for cheaper. If I went with an iMac, there isn't a big hard drive. I would have to keep an external on the desktop, or look into the more expensive networked hard drive systems out there, it would be cool to have. It seems like there will just be more clutter on my desk, not like I've never had that before, but right now I don't.

Basicaly I want to have a fast system that I wont have to upgrade for over a year, and that runs OSX.

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If you're building a PC to run the Mac OS, then it's more hurdles to jump through than you think.

In the long run (if you want to avoid headaches), it's better to simply get the Mac... though my PC running Vista x64 w/ 4gb is doing fine =P


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Dec 16, 2007 01:49 |  #10

osx86.com (external link) is what you seek.


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Dec 16, 2007 01:50 |  #11

I've been down that road...and now own the MacBook Pro. Trust me its more hassle then its worth...and honestly the MacPro's aren't that as expensive as you may think once you spec everything out compared to the PC you plan on building. Oh and I don't believe the CPU's are solder in on the MacPro's (though I could be wrong).


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Dec 16, 2007 07:42 |  #12

Andrew Pratt wrote in post #4513457 (external link)
I've been down that road...and now own the MacBook Pro. Trust me its more hassle then its worth...and honestly the MacPro's aren't that as expensive as you may think once you spec everything out compared to the PC you plan on building. Oh and I don't believe the CPU's are solder in on the MacPro's (though I could be wrong).

Yeah they are pretty expensive. I may wait to find a good deal on Ebay when I get back next year.

How much of a hassle did you have with it? I am hearing that they run a bit slow, but there are fixes for it. I am not there to test anything out, so that is why I started this thread.

I really want to run dual monitors and even just a new 24" iMac is almost 2 grand. I can build a sweet system for under 2 grand. This is why I am trying to make a built PC.

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osx86.com (external link) is what you seek.

thanks. I have done some reading on there. I started this thread before I found that though. I still want to hear from sane people, "Photographers," so keep the comments coming.



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