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Canon 17-85 v Sigma 17-70

 
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Dec 17, 2007 05:35 |  #1

I was thinking of the Canon 17-85 to replace my "kit lens", I do like the extra length over the, say 17-55. However looking through the many posts on that lens, there are, very much, mixed feelings on it.

My attention has been drawn to the Sigma 17-70, admittedly, not as long as the Canon, but still worth consideration.

Does anybody have any experience, or indeed any strong feelings, of comparison between these two lenses.

The Sigma is also approx 2/3's the price of the Canon, for me that would be a bonus, I'd happily pay the extra for the Canon if I thought it was worth it. (IS, USM)

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Dec 17, 2007 07:55 |  #2
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I have the 17-85 and although there do seem to be mixed feelings on it, I have only great things to say about it. It has not let me down yet.

I have not used the Sigma so I can't compare it to the 17-85.


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Dec 17, 2007 08:30 |  #3

I have the 17-70 and I am pretty sure that I am going to switch to the 17-85. The 17-70 is a pretty good lens, but with the type of shooting I do, mostly family events and vacation photos, I think the IS will help me a lot. I do 95% handheld shooting and use a quality flash on inside shots.


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Dec 17, 2007 09:05 |  #4

What do you shoot?

The Sigma 17-70 is a seriously under-rated landscape lens. I absolutely love mine. A vast majority of the shots on my website were taken with it (see signature).

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Dec 17, 2007 09:09 |  #5

I had the Sigma, sold it for the 17-85. I wanted the little bit of reach and the benefits of IS and USM. Both are very comperable lenses. Do a search for lightrules on pbase and see his review/comparison of the two.




  
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Dec 17, 2007 10:54 |  #6

Check out these links:

http://www.pbase.com/l​ightrules/17701785 (external link)

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=164379

Optics: These two lenses are very similar in sharpness and contrast. The Sigma is sharper at the wide end while the Canon is sharper at the long end; this is a consistent finding of mine. The Sigma is a bit better at the edges overall. Distortion and light fall-off are a little better controlled on the Sigma, while flare resistance is better on the Canon; color fringing is clearly better with the Sigma. The Sigma renders a warmer tone while the Canon is cooler (as usual).

Conclusion: The main perks of the Canon are its 15mm longer reach, IS, and USM/FTM. The main perks of the Sigma are its slightly better build, its faster aperture across the focal lengths (and brighter VF), and its excellent MFD and 1:2 reproduction ratio (VERY nice!). Both are tremendous "walkaround" lenses that give you 17mm on the wide end (27mm effective FOV). The Sigma runs about $400USD while the Canon can be had for about $520USD (though even cheaper on eBay). Both can only be used on 1.6x bodies. If I had to choose between these two, I would go with the Canon for its better range, much better AF (ring USM/FTM), and of course, IS. The Sigma is a fine choice, but the Canon gets my nod overall (though it's not an easy selection).


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Dec 17, 2007 11:16 |  #7

Personally I have used both. They are both great lenses and I would be happy to own either. For me I chose the Sigma, my father has the Canon and I have used it extensively. Personally I found it not to be as sharp and to have more distortion. That is not scientific though, and as with most things it is a personal preference.


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Dec 17, 2007 14:43 |  #8

i bought a 17-85IS with a hood and CPL filter for my 400d from ebay yesterday should be here soon ;)


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Dec 17, 2007 14:51 |  #9

MLphoto wrote in post #4522389 (external link)
i bought a 17-85IS with a hood and CPL filter for my 400d from ebay yesterday should be here soon ;)

You won't be disappointed, IMO -- it's very nice for an all-purpose walk-around lens. It's not made for low-light or action type of shooting, but that's another matter:)!


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Dec 17, 2007 15:00 |  #10

17-85+cpl is quite amazing for travel. i took one on my xt for italy, and i have to say that without IS i'de have been taking some blurry shots... if you can afford the 17-55, get that, else fall back to the 17-85

as for low light, you'de be amazed at some of the shots you can get at iso 800 and 1/4th s


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Dec 17, 2007 15:52 |  #11

I wouldn't trade my 17-70 for a 17-85, but I did have a hard time decieding between the two.

In the end the 17-70 won because its cheaper, it comes with a hood, its just as good opticaly, and after handling both I liked how it felt.


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Dec 17, 2007 17:05 |  #12

Moppie wrote in post #4522757 (external link)
I wouldn't trade my 17-70 for a 17-85, but I did have a hard time decieding between the two.

In the end the 17-70 won because its cheaper, it comes with a hood, its just as good opticaly, and after handling both I liked how it felt.

AND.... The Sigma has much better macro....


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Dec 17, 2007 17:13 |  #13

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AND.... The Sigma has much better macro....

This is a very good point.
I have a series of waterfall photos where focus changes from the water fall that the baot was about to go under, to water droplets on the filter.
When zoomed to 70mm the end of the lens is the minimum focus distance.


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Dec 18, 2007 06:01 |  #14

Thanks very much for all your comments guys: -

but I think the jury is still out!!

I'm tempted to the Canon by the extra length, IS and USM, but I'm getting the vibes that the Sigma is better build and image quality.

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Dec 18, 2007 06:47 |  #15

I love my Sigma 17-70 NOW for the image quality and macro capability, but when I first got it I missed the USM and 85mm of my Canon 24-85mm.

I personally think the Sigma is better because it is cheaper and sharper. But many reviewers also say the Sigma 17-70 is sharper at the wide end and the Canon 17-85 is sharper at the long end.


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