Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
Thread started 10 Sep 2004 (Friday) 09:50
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Online petition to Canon about pricing

 
evilenglishman
Goldmember
1,184 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jul 2003
     
Sep 10, 2004 09:50 |  #1

(Can we have this as a sticky? pleeeaaaase)

After the posts on the subject of Canon's UK prices in this thread:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=42224

I have set up an online petition addressed to Canon regarding the pricing of their items in The UK and the lack of direct e-mail contact on their UK website.

Maybe (probably) it wont make any difference but I would appriciate it if you could all sign it, it only takes a moment and your email address (doesn't have to be legit) will be kept private.

Click here to view and/or sign the petition (external link)


Click here to view and/or sign the petition (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Scottes
Trigger Man - POTN Retired
Avatar
12,842 posts
Likes: 10
Joined Nov 2003
Location: A Little North Of Boston, MA, USA
     
Sep 10, 2004 10:02 |  #2

Why not petition the governemtn about the VAT, too? Isn't that a very large portion of the price?

In the next state cigarettes cost less than half the price of cigarettes in Masschusetts. Why? Because Massachusetts tacks on $3 a pack in taxes. So it wouldn't do me much good to petition Marlboro.

I thought a lot of the reason that European prices were high was the VAT and taxes. Am I wrong?


You can take my 100-400 L away when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
Scottes' Rum Pages - Rum Reviews And Info (external link)
Follower of Fidget - Joined the cult of HAMSTTR©

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
CyberDyneSystems
Admin (type T-2000)
Avatar
52,922 posts
Gallery: 193 photos
Likes: 10114
Joined Apr 2003
Location: Rhode Island USA
     
Sep 10, 2004 10:05 |  #3

evilenglishman wrote:
(Can we have this as a sticky? pleeeaaaase)


er ... no.

And I'd get braced for the flame... :lol: :wink:
The last time someone posted a pettition on this forum it wasn't very pretty :shock: :lol:


GEAR LIST
CDS' HOT LINKS
Jake Hegnauer Photography (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
evilenglishman
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
1,184 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jul 2003
     
Sep 10, 2004 10:09 |  #4

ok, but i dont see how anyone could find this petition a bad thing


Click here to view and/or sign the petition (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tommykjensen
Cream of the Crop
21,013 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 260
Joined Mar 2004
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark.
     
Sep 10, 2004 10:10 |  #5

Scottes wrote:
Why not petition the governemtn about the VAT, too? Isn't that a very large portion of the price?

In the next state cigarettes cost less than half the price of cigarettes in Masschusetts. Why? Because Massachusetts tacks on $3 a pack in taxes. So it wouldn't do me much good to petition Marlboro.

I thought a lot of the reason that European prices were high was the VAT and taxes. Am I wrong?

Exactly, I would love if the world could influence Denmark to lower the VAT from 25% to a reasonable amount! We already pay more than 50% in tax and every time we buy something we pay additionally 25% VAT.

Sorry but the main reason for the different prices in different countries is govermental VAT & TAX. I hate that a thing like 20D can be bought for $1500 in USA but in Denmark I have to pay something like $2100 but that is not Canon's fault (entirely).


EDITING OF MY PHOTOS IS NOT ALLOWED

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tommykjensen
Cream of the Crop
21,013 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 260
Joined Mar 2004
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark.
     
Sep 10, 2004 10:11 |  #6

evilenglishman wrote:
ok, but i dont see how anyone could find this petition a bad thing

Its not bad but why do something that will have no result at all?


EDITING OF MY PHOTOS IS NOT ALLOWED

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Cadwell
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
7,333 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jan 2004
Location: Hampshire, UK
     
Sep 10, 2004 11:30 |  #7

Scottes wrote:
Why not petition the governemtn about the VAT, too? Isn't that a very large portion of the price?

In the next state cigarettes cost less than half the price of cigarettes in Masschusetts. Why? Because Massachusetts tacks on $3 a pack in taxes. So it wouldn't do me much good to petition Marlboro.

I thought a lot of the reason that European prices were high was the VAT and taxes. Am I wrong?

You are wrong. The VAT is a factor... but it doesn't explain everything.

1Ds at B&H = $7,999
1Ds at Jessops = £5,999 = $10,789

That's with all taxes including VAT paid.

I make it we are paying a cool $2,790 over the odds on that camera and I am afraid that the majority of that is going straight to Canon. Why do you think Canon refuse to honour the warranty on US bought cameras in the UK? It's to discourage consumers from voting with their feet and buying from the likes of B&H. Canon want to force us to buy from the UK and so protect their unreasonable mark-up.

Were I to import that camera from B&H and pay all Tax and import duties on it, it would cost me $9,878. Of course, I'd have no warranty.


Glenn
My Pictures: Motorsport (external link)/Canoe Polo (external link)/Other Stuff (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tommykjensen
Cream of the Crop
21,013 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 260
Joined Mar 2004
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark.
     
Sep 10, 2004 11:38 |  #8

Cadwell wrote:
1Ds at B&H = $7,999
1ds at Jessops = £5,999 = $10,789

Oh boy, it seems at least with this camera that Denmark is cheap - well not compared to US.

In Denmark the 1Ds cost approx $8783 ! And it would not even be profitable to order it from B&H because then the price would be $10.000 !


EDITING OF MY PHOTOS IS NOT ALLOWED

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
evilenglishman
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
1,184 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jul 2003
     
Sep 10, 2004 11:38 |  #9

exactly!


Click here to view and/or sign the petition (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Cadwell
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
7,333 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jan 2004
Location: Hampshire, UK
     
Sep 10, 2004 11:50 |  #10

But let's inject a degree of realism here... Canon are by far from the only offender. Virtually ALL electronics goods sellers play the same game in terms of pricing.


Glenn
My Pictures: Motorsport (external link)/Canoe Polo (external link)/Other Stuff (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
aam1234
Goldmember
Avatar
4,132 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2004
     
Sep 10, 2004 12:01 |  #11

I could be wrong on this, but I heard that canon charges us the UK prices here eventhough we don't have any taxes or VAT

That's the reason I have interest in this subject.

In comparison, Nikon charge prices close to US market.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
CyberDyneSystems
Admin (type T-2000)
Avatar
52,922 posts
Gallery: 193 photos
Likes: 10114
Joined Apr 2003
Location: Rhode Island USA
     
Sep 10, 2004 12:05 |  #12

...Boycott... :shock: :shock: :shock:

:lol:


GEAR LIST
CDS' HOT LINKS
Jake Hegnauer Photography (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Cadwell
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
7,333 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jan 2004
Location: Hampshire, UK
     
Sep 10, 2004 12:08 |  #13

CyberDyneSystems wrote:
...Boycott... :shock: :shock: :shock:

:lol:

:shock: :shock: :shock: Y..y..you... mean... go cold turkey? :shock: :shock: :shock:

I don't think I can :oops: I'm not strong enough :oops:

;)


Glenn
My Pictures: Motorsport (external link)/Canoe Polo (external link)/Other Stuff (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sGu
Goldmember
Avatar
2,372 posts
Joined May 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
     
Sep 10, 2004 12:12 |  #14

hope this will make canon lower UK price, not increase US price :shock:


Beautifully Ordinary | Gu Photography | Still + Motion Pictures
w. guphoto.co.uk
e gu@guphoto.co.uk

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gcogger
Goldmember
2,554 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2003
Location: Southampton, UK
     
Sep 10, 2004 12:33 |  #15

Cadwell wrote:
Scottes wrote:
Why not petition the governemtn about the VAT, too? Isn't that a very large portion of the price?

In the next state cigarettes cost less than half the price of cigarettes in Masschusetts. Why? Because Massachusetts tacks on $3 a pack in taxes. So it wouldn't do me much good to petition Marlboro.

I thought a lot of the reason that European prices were high was the VAT and taxes. Am I wrong?

You are wrong. The VAT is a factor... but it doesn't explain everything.

1Ds at B&H = $7,999
1Ds at Jessops = £5,999 = $10,789

That's with all taxes including VAT paid.

I make it we are paying a cool $2,790 over the odds on that camera and I am afraid that the majority of that is going straight to Canon. Why do you think Canon refuse to honour the warranty on US bought cameras in the UK? It's to discourage consumers from voting with their feet and buying from the likes of B&H. Canon want to force us to buy from the UK and so protect their unreasonable mark-up.

Were I to import that camera from B&H and pay all Tax and import duties on it, it would cost me $9,878. Of course, I'd have no warranty.

Yes, a 1DS costs $7999 at B&H.
Jessops is very expensive. If you bought one in the UK at a sensibly priced shop (e.g. Park, or A J Purdy, or Ffordes - simply the first ones I looked at) it's between £4900 and £5100 - say £5000 on average. If you remove the VAT (as Canon is not responsible for that), it's £4255.
At today's interbank rate, that works out at $7595.
From the above, it seems that the Canon price is lower in the UK than the US, but I'm not sure whether the B&H price includes any sales tax. If so, we'd have to remove that from the $7999 to get a fair comparison.
Considering we get better warranty protection in the EU (up to 6 years as a statutary right, if you want to try and claim it!) I don't feel cheated by Canon. The only reason we pay more in this case is because of VAT.


Graeme
My galleries (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

7,716 views & 0 likes for this thread, 26 members have posted to it.
Online petition to Canon about pricing
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is AlainPre
1731 guests, 147 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.