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Dec 20, 2007 07:29 |  #1

Some time ago I tried a technique to eliminate (severely reduce actually) noise in digital images through multiexposure: http://www.guillermolu​ijk.com/article/nonois​e/index_en.htm (external link).
I am going to write a program to do it automatically from the RAW files with expanded features, but another forum member (Joan Trujillo) has posted recently his method to perform the same operation in Photoshop. The application of his method is incredibly simple, conceptually robust and of course effective.

This is the link to his PS method: http://jtrujillo.net/q​pix/ (external link)

I recommend you give it a try, it's a really good system to blend 2 images achieving noise reduction and dynamic range expansion. It would be a good idea if you post your experiences here.

This is a test I did with two pictures +4EV apart:

Adjust layers and original less exposed image saving highlights without any adjustment.

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Final image if 1 shot is used (left) vs Blending of the 2 shots (right):
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Dec 20, 2007 11:42 |  #2

I will have to give this a try it really looks like it worked great! Thanks!


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Dec 20, 2007 12:11 |  #3

These look like amazing results here in the small images!

IS this PSCS3? I don;t think I have "tone mapping" options in PSCS v1
Or is "Tone mapping" just a name for the layer?


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Dec 20, 2007 14:13 |  #4

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #4541287 (external link)
IS this PSCS3? I don;t think I have "tone mapping" options in PSCS v1
Or is "Tone mapping" just a name for the layer?

Tone Mapping is a concept, not only a particular option in a software GUI. It's about adjusting local and overall contrast to your image so that you imitate human vision behaviour and the image gets more realistic (if properly done).

You can do it (most times horribly) with a dedicated piece of software like Photomatix, and you can do it by hand, obtaining much more natural and credible results just by applying common sense to the scene.

Yes, I gave that name to curve the mask layer I used to apply my hand-made tone mapping.

I only have CS2.

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Dec 20, 2007 19:31 |  #5

wow.. I have to give this a try


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Dec 27, 2007 00:17 |  #6

Ahh thanks for that added info GUI,. I have used layers of multiple exposures to gain "Higher Dynamic Range" with prodigious use of layers and masks.


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Dec 27, 2007 00:22 |  #7

I'm too tired to comprehend this right now, but thanks for the thread/samples/links/i​nfo. :)


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Dec 27, 2007 01:28 |  #8

So....can someone clear this up for me...is this HDR or what?


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Dec 27, 2007 01:42 |  #9

Trainboy wrote in post #4575163 (external link)
So....can someone clear this up for me...is this HDR or what?

That's certainly what it sounds like to me.
Though I will admit I like the isolation technique of the 3rd converted image.


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Trainboy wrote in post #4575163 (external link)
So....can someone clear this up for me...is this HDR or what?

Hi, I am the guy who wrote the article (photoshop handling).

I wouldn't call it strictly HDR but it has a dynamic range increase indeed. Since I post the article from other forums and digging deeper in HDR technology I think it's too much to call it HDR although it shares many points with it, especially the tone mapping that these images require later.

Notice though that this technique does not produce by itself the typical HDR looking images, it simple provides noise clean shadows. But by the nature of the images (a high contrast scene) you have then to boost the shadows, here you can go and achieve many different interpretations, from very sober to the exaggerated HDR popping colors. In any case The advantage is that being so clean in the dark areas the images allow major tweaks without showing artifacts or noise.




  
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Dec 27, 2007 04:54 |  #11

can u do this to a single image? or do they need more than 1 exposure?


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Dec 28, 2007 03:31 |  #12

e r y k wrote in post #4575653 (external link)
can u do this to a single image? or do they need more than 1 exposure?

The essence of this technique is shooting twice (notice that the second shot is overexposed). In order to achieve less noise what we do here is a second exposure with the shadows moved to the midtones where is less noise. Then pulling it down in the RAW program to the correct exposure gives an image with very clean dark zones.

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