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Seems unusual - Sigma 100-300 - Owner input please

 
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Dec 21, 2007 16:05 |  #1

By chance I was lucky enough to test drive a sample Sigma 100-300 f/4 at Sigma service today. I figured I'd give'em a call before I spent money renting one since they're around the block from me.

I put it on my 30D and take as many shots as I can for about 10 minutes out front of the building. My initial impressions were, wow..lighter than my 70-200 2.8IS, longer, big front element and smooth zoom/focus ring action.

Some of the test shots I took were pointed towards the direction of the sun to see how it handled flare and how contrast/haze was affected. I saw something that looks strange to me, so I'm posting here to see if any owners of the 100-300 experience this as well.

(Pretty compressed, sorry.. )


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IMAGE: http://thefabhouse.com/temp_sample_images/potn/100-300-T1.JPG

193mm - was looking for 200ish:
IMAGE: http://thefabhouse.com/temp_sample_images/potn/100-300-T2.JPG

300mm:
IMAGE: http://thefabhouse.com/temp_sample_images/potn/100-300-T3.JPG

I know we aren't supposed to shoot into the sun...etc, but this wasn't INTO the sun, it was in the DIRECTION of the sun, the sun was about 2 o'clock and above the front of the lens. What I found strange was that pointed into this condition and after about 225mm or so, I could see this sort of vignette closing in until it almost completely filled the frame - but it wasn't vignette, jut the shape. I was more of a heavy haze that slowly but surely filled the whole frame between 225mm to 300mm and from the outer edges and made a sort of circle. Kinda hard to explain. Something like if you looked down the front element of your lens, set a tiny aperture and hit the DOF preview button, but it closed and opened as you approached 300mm or came back to 225mm.

FFS That probably could have been described better...


Anyone? This is sort of a deal breaker for me. I have plenty of other pictures like this, but it's only when pointed in the general vicinity of the sun. I would imagine any light source.

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Dec 21, 2007 16:07 |  #2

We you using a hood?


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Dec 21, 2007 16:08 |  #3

gasrocks wrote in post #4548414 (external link)
We you using a hood?

Yes, of course.


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Dec 21, 2007 16:10 |  #4

Fabrian wrote in post #4548418 (external link)
Yes, of course.

It' one seriously long hood too.


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Dec 21, 2007 16:15 as a reply to  @ Fabrian's post |  #5

I know this might be obvious but did the lens come out of the warmth and into the cold? I have one of these lenses and have never had that problem.




  
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Dec 21, 2007 16:20 |  #6

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I know this might be obvious but did the lens come out of the warmth and into the cold? I have one of these lenses and have never had that problem.

Yes, but not that drastic of a difference. I don't think that could be it though. The image doesn't show what is seen in the viewfinder. In the viewfinder you can see a clear and perfect circle that changes size between 225 and 300mm. It got to be some sort of reflection internally where light is bouncing off of the front off the zoom mechanism. I just wondered if anyone else has seen this before.


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Dec 21, 2007 16:32 as a reply to  @ Fabrian's post |  #7

I have one of these lenses, it does not exhibit that behavior as far as I know. I don't use it much these days but it is a great lens IMHO.

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Dec 21, 2007 18:05 |  #8

I've had something like that happen to me one time . But mine was taken at an early morning youth football game. It was cold , with a very heavy dew and I was shooting at the wrong angle to the sun. I've taken over a thousand shots with this lens and it was the only time it happened. I chalk mine up to " user error". Not saying yours was, just mine.

Here's a shot from that day. Not a great one , but one to give you an idea. When I crossed the field , everything was ok and the images where great. Here's a link http://groups.msn.com …ified=467564458​7094374961 (external link) where we discussed it.


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Dec 21, 2007 18:40 |  #9

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I've had something like that happen to me one time . But mine was taken at an early morning youth football game. It was cold , with a very heavy dew and I was shooting at the wrong angle to the sun. I've taken over a thousand shots with this lens and it was the only time it happened. I chalk mine up to " user error". Not saying yours was, just mine.

Here's a shot from that day. Not a great one , but one to give you an idea. When I crossed the field , everything was ok and the images where great. Here's a link http://groups.msn.com …ified=467564458​7094374961 (external link) where we discussed it.

It may be so that user error has something to do with it, but I've taken shots similar to this condition with my other three lenses and have not yet seen this sort of affect. Also, most of the shots came out this way. Sigma is closed until Wednesday. I plan on taking some of these images over to them and let them have a look. If there is something funky with the lens then they aught to know since this piece is a show sample.

Although your shot looks similar to what I got today, they're a bit different in terms of affect. You can see that prismatic image within your image which is a clear indicator that direct sunlight hit your glass. That sort of marking never showed up in one of my test images, which still makes me wonder if there is something wrong with their sample. I've seen plenty of hazing in an image from shooting into the sunlight, but never like this.

Eh, I guess Sigma can take a look at the images I took and see if they have a funked lens.


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Dec 21, 2007 19:57 |  #10

Seems like condensation to me
your lens fogged up slightly when you took it outside.
Was it a particularly dewy sort of day?


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Dec 21, 2007 21:29 |  #11

Nikolas wrote in post #4549515 (external link)
Was it a particularly dewy sort of day?

No. I think the key in looking at these sample pictures is that only the far end has an issue. The lens didn't move, so if it were due to the sun, it should have showed up at all focal lengths. In fact, I would think that it would show up more so at the short end before the long end.

Keep in mind that this sample was Sigma's display lens, I don't own it. I'm going to drop the sample images off to the tech at Sigma on Wednesday for his input anyway.


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Dec 22, 2007 10:40 as a reply to  @ Fabrian's post |  #12

FWIW, this image cleaned up well with only PS auto levels.

IMAGE: http://www.thefabhouse.com/temp_sample_images/potn/100-300-T2-AL.jpg

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Dec 22, 2007 10:45 |  #13

I'd tend to test a lens where I knew it would give of its best rather than in a situation I personally wouldn't shoot in. Sunny conditions and shooting into it so flare is inevitable doesn't seem that useful unless that is how you actually shoot. Any lens will show a problem to some degree ... at least in my experience. The 100-300 is a stunning lens. Did you take any 'real world' shooting condition shots and how where they? These shots just don't show what it can do ... not even close.


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Dec 22, 2007 10:52 |  #14

Regarding the shooting in the sun thing...i have done that several times :X, but there appears to be no damage whatsoever (except high noise -,-)


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Dec 22, 2007 10:57 as a reply to  @ Adamora's post |  #15

I rented that lens a while back and I was pleased with the shots, here are a few examples during football season:

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