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Dec 25, 2007 21:03 |  #1

You can get this from my sig, but here's my current setup (major components):

Canon 40D
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS
Canon 24-105mm f/4L IS

I definitely prefer L build and FF compatibility (looking to buy a 5D within the next 12 months as a second body) but still consider EF-S if it fits the need.

A couple more comments. I find 24mm wide enough, unless I want to go really wide. I am also looking for very low-light options (read "f/2.8 not good enough") So... help me spend about $650:

  • Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5: W---I---D---E... talk about fun with landscape shots, etc... then again, if I'm going to travel, I may be able to purchase anyway on "travel" expenses (or at least that'd be my argument!)
  • Canon 50mm f/1.4 & Canon 85mm f/1.8: Two primes for a good price!
  • Sigma 30 f/1.4 EX DC: under budget, but fast and wide... 1.6x crop only, though (plus ? for $200?)
  • Canon 580EX II: Compensate with good flash instead of fast lenses? Pair with 50mm f/1.4 or 85mm f/1.8? Or get more "flash" gear in total?
or... wait for.....
  • Canon 35mm f1.4L
Decisions, decisions!!! Well, everyone's got an opinion - let me hear yours!

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Dec 25, 2007 21:05 |  #2

So how are you getting a 35L for $650?


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Dec 25, 2007 21:09 |  #3

The part that says "or... wait for ....." Canon 35L... assuming he means wait and SAVE. :)



  
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Dec 25, 2007 21:11 |  #4

LOL...I thought he meant like "or...wait for it..." like it was a big surprise or something. :lol: I don't know! I'm tired! :p

If you're gonna go FF at some point, and already have the 24-105L IS, get the 50 1.4 and the flash. The 50 is phenomenal on the 5D, and the flash is a beautiful piece of gear to have. Helps a lot.


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Dec 25, 2007 21:11 |  #5

If you want/need to be faster than f2.8 fast primes are your only choice. The 50 and 85 would get my vote. But then my choice for me would have been the Canon 100mm macro, OK so its not faster than f2.8, but it does focus very close.

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Dec 25, 2007 21:12 |  #6

Do you know if you like primes? You could always get one of the cheaper primes (50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8) first off and see how well you like it before jumping in and getting more... a 580EX would be a great buy, imho, as bounced and off-camera flash is a whooole 'nother world compared to the baby little one on-cam :)


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Dec 25, 2007 21:19 |  #7

Dorman wrote in post #4568765 (external link)
The part that says "or... wait for ....." Canon 35L... assuming he means wait and SAVE. :)

Bingo.... I think the 35L's my top pic, but almost twice my current budget!


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Dec 25, 2007 21:52 as a reply to  @ djeuch's post |  #8

I would go with the flash.
I just finished shooting some shots for Christmas with my family and even with the 85L a lot of pictures didn`t turn out that well.
Shooting with the 24-105 and the 580EX II I got superb shots and printed them all without pp. Prints were excellent.
I find that the bounce flash inside is better then any fast lens without flash.


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Dec 26, 2007 09:12 |  #9

Kris_2020 wrote in post #4568952 (external link)
I would go with the flash.
I just finished shooting some shots for Christmas with my family and even with the 85L a lot of pictures didn`t turn out that well.
Shooting with the 24-105 and the 580EX II I got superb shots and printed them all without pp. Prints were excellent.
I find that the bounce flash inside is better then any fast lens without flash.

I love my 24-105mm... so, with a 580EX II (and some practice) you think it would be better than a low-light lens? I was really leaning towards the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 - right "width" and f/1.4, but I really don't know any more.

Even the 85mm f/1.8, although a great lens, I'm not sure about... if I need that range or portrait shooting, I'd pull my 70-200mm f/2.8 instead... yes, more than 1 stop slower, but for portraits, does it matter?

Hmmm... I think I'm more confused than ever!


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Dec 26, 2007 11:20 as a reply to  @ djeuch's post |  #10

I am having so much fun with my 10-22 it shouldn't even be legal! I don't care if you plan to buy full frame next week, if it's a lens you must get, that is the one I would suggest.

But seeing that you have no flash I would have to 100% vote for the 580 EXII, without a doubt. No single piece of photo gear has improved my abilty to take decent photos than my flash.


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Dec 26, 2007 11:36 |  #11

djeuch wrote in post #4568740 (external link)
  • Canon 50mm f/1.4 & Canon 85mm f/1.8: Two primes for a good price!
  • Canon 580EX II: Compensate with good flash instead of fast lenses? Pair with 50mm f/1.4 or 85mm f/1.8? Or get more "flash" gear in total

How do you currently take indoor shots w/o flash - using ISO 1600/3200? I think 70-200 is too long (esp. on a 1.6 body) indoors, so my guess is you'd use 24-105, but then probably too slow at f/4.

I recently got a 85mm f/1.8 and it's a great lens; however, it's still not fast enough for indoor shots with no flash. Fortunately, my 430EX let me take indoor shots.

For the money, I think you should either get two 430EX, plus some fancy bracket+cable to mount/fire them both, OR get 580EX II + a nice bracket, allowing you to take nice indoor flash photos quickly, using your 24-105.

Alternatively, you can sell your 40D, add $650, get a 5D body, and go full frame. But honestly, it looks like you should just get some flashes at this point so you can take indoor shots.

It ultimately depends on what you want to shoot. I personally shoot a lot of indoor shots, primiarly my family. If you're an outdoor shooter, then you may be better off getting a x1.4 teleconverter or longer prime, etc. The list never ends!! :)


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Dec 26, 2007 11:45 as a reply to  @ bbbig's post |  #12

I'd suggest go for the flash, I wouldn't be without mine - bounced and diffused in-door flash gives great results, and even the fastest lens won't make a dark room look like outdoors.

I'd also suggest going for a fast prime - if you don't mind the crop-only thing then the sigma 30 f/1.4 is awesome. Gorgeous bokeh, excellent build, and gives near as dammit a 'standard' prime field of view of 48mm. Great image quality too, and you can only get better by spending 4 times as much on the 35L


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Dec 26, 2007 13:31 |  #13

My vote is for the flash, and then fast primes!


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Dec 26, 2007 15:00 |  #14

Future FF plans, notwithstanding, Sigma 30-1.4 and 430 EX can be had at B&H for about $670, plus shipping.


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Dec 26, 2007 15:13 as a reply to  @ runninmann's post |  #15

Hope not to be interupting jdeuch's thread, but have $$ in my pocket as well. I don't shoot much indoors other than my pets. Was looking for prime lens for telephoto instead. I live in, and work all around FL, and lots of outdoor photo ops here year round. This has got me to thinking though.........I do love to shoot my babies.

Good luck jdeuch, I am more confused than ever! Of course, I am very much a newbie with DSLR, only having mine for almost one year now. And because of this site, I already want to trade up! LOL Must get proficient with what I have first. Good glass and flash will fit on other bodies!


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