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Skagit Eagle Festival Question

 
mabas9395
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Dec 31, 2007 15:22 |  #1

For those near Washington State, USA, the Upper Skagit Bald Eagle Festival will get underway in January. They say you can see more than 100 a day as they feast on salmon in the river.

I don't live too far away so would like to go and try some eagle shots. Unfortunately, I am limited in my gear. I understand that "reach is king" but all I have is a 70-200 on a 1.6 crop body. For most birding, that is probably not going to work. My only hope would be if the birds are large enough and close enough to make my current set up work. I really don't think that a longer lens is a possibility for me right now.

So I was wondering if anyone has been to the Eagle Festival and could tell me if the conditions are good enough that even a 320mm effective reach would yield anything worth while or would I just be waisting my time? I'm not looking for professional quality, just want to get out and have some fun.


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Dec 31, 2007 15:33 |  #2

time for some extention tubes.


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Jan 03, 2008 13:49 |  #3

Uhland wrote in post #4604179 (external link)
time for some extention tubes.

I was going to do it this year anyway, so I went ahead and got the 1.4x teleconverter. That will get me effectively out to 448mm vs 320 without it (using a 200mm lens on a 1.6 crop body).

I don't have high expectations for my first time out, but would like to get shot that are good enough to motivate me to try it again vs discouraging me. Has anyone taken bird shots during this festival? Their website makes it sound like you can get pretty close to them, true or false? Are there spots better than the ones they suggest? Is a river float trip a better way to get good shots, and are the trips usually camera safe? They say before 11am is best, does that mean the earlier the better (e.g. 6am)?

Any other advice or tips to give an eagle noob who is lacking in both gear and skill?


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Jan 03, 2008 15:51 as a reply to  @ mabas9395's post |  #4

Like any wildlife shooting whether your lens is long enough...it depends. You can at times find places along the Skagit where the spawned salmon are on a gravel bar or beach that you can approach and be well within the reach of 200mm or 200mm plus a 1.4x. Other times 600mm is not enough regardless.

The suggestion for extension tubes I would guess is a joke, as those will limit both the near and far focus ability of the lens. If you can get within 20-25' they would be helpful but at more normal distance measured is a couple dozen yards or more they would be useless.

On the floats you will see a lot of birds, many on the shore edge but many more in the trees and so you will be shooting the probverbial... "see this is an eagles rear end shot". This is not to say you might not find some good shots at or near eye level. But understand the boat is floating with the current and you need to be prepared to grab a few quick shots if they present themselves because the guide will slow the boat but rarely stop it.

You stay fairly dry and with a few precautions the camera should be fine, a dry bag is very handy to have and some plastic produce bags can be used to cover the body/lens if (yeah if! ) it rains. But the water is fairly placid but any kind of enviornemnt like this be prepared for water to be splashing about, other visitors pushing, and moving about to get the best view.

You will have a lot of fun and see some very nice birds regardless of your choice of moving along the river, but if it were me I try to find a place where first it is legal to get down to the river and 2nd where the river has a bend or break that brings the carcasses to the bank and there I sit and wait for the bird to come to me. If there are a number of birds and few fish you will get them coming close if you are patient and quietly still. But you can see a large number of birds that are away from the river as well, almost funny but if you see roadkill an eagle will be visiting it so keep your eye on it or around it they are probably eyeballing it as well from nearby.

Don't wear white and do wear a hat it really makes a difference if having the birds approach you or vice versa.

And as almost an aside, the Festivals run doesn't promise birds, it is just a convenient time for the community to hold it. The eagles can come earllier or later but will eventually show up, so if it is bust one day the next can be an entirely different story. And if the eagles aren't there do go down river to the Skagit flats & shoot some snow geese, peregrines and short eared owls among other interesting subjects which are all out there right now.

Forgot to add, the sun isn't rising until about 8:00 am, and the river is shadowed by trees on it is westerly run so a 6:00am start would not let any shooting happen for at least 3 hours and then at an ISO of 800 and wide open. Plus if you are in a boat you are going to want shutter speed as much as possible, the boats movement will have to mitigated by the fastest speed you can get, I would guess based on other water shooting I have done 1/1000th on a IS lens is a good starting point but personally I would perfer twice that or more. That is probably the biggest challenge from shooting in a raft. That said, morning is better because the carcasses that hung up over night are available, during the day these get consumed and the eagles look for other options. Have fun, good luck!



  
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Jan 03, 2008 16:00 |  #5

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