RIP, Tatiana

Has there been any follow up on how she got out? this story has dropped off the news radar in the UK.

IMO someone's head should be rolling....

steved110 wrote in post #4723765
Has there been any follow up on how she got out? this story has dropped off the news radar in the UK.

IMO someone's head should be rolling....

There is a lot of speculation that she was provoked, but nothing has been proven yet. It's a very sad situation.

http://www.cnn.com …x.html?section=​cnn_latest

Let's not forget a HUMAN was killed too, RIP to the victom as well............

There are news stories this morning about the blood alcohol levels of the guys and one has apparently admitted climbing on top of the railing and yelling and waving.

Bbryan5 wrote in post #4724426
Let's not forget a HUMAN was killed too, RIP to the victom as well............

if it is true that they were drunk and taunted the tiger he was not a victim.

Well, it looks like Tatiana was taunted. They had alcohol and marijuana in their system.
This poor animal was already caged and then to have someone teasing it.....It's a sad loss on both sides.

bonefish wrote in post #4728648
if it is true that they were drunk and taunted the tiger he was not a victim.

Bonefish, that was a little harsh. Yea maybe he'd been drinking, maybe even stoned, who knows, but I'm pretty sure he is still a victim regardless. Lots of people yell at the animals at the zoo, wave at em whatever. If it woulda been a small child, then I doubt you would be sayin the same thing. Yes adults should be smarter, but i'm just sayin he was still a victim.

And props to Bbryan5 for bringing this up. A humans life comes before an animals.

RIP to the VICTIM - even if he did do something stupid

I side with the animal..........they are wild....maybe tamed, but they do what comes "naturally" in unnatural surroundings. I know zoos have their place in the world...but I still can't go to one without feeling depressed Same goes for Giant Aquariums.its the large mammals I feel for.........

Wow! I'm a little shocked by some of the comments here. Siding with the animal? Huh? Hopefully you just chose the wrong words or I'm interpreting your statement wrong....

I'm the first to say that I'm sorry the tiger died. It's sad that she lived there relatively peacefully for years, but for whatever reason, she went after the three young men. There was a lot of speculation that they were teasing/taunting her. Many people were crying to wait for the official report. Well, some of it is here now. They WERE taunting her:

http://www.contracosta​times.com/ci_8007892

A tranquilizer gun would have been nice, but not very practical. Tranquilizers take time to take effect. Once person was dead, and others injured. Police Officers are not trained to deal with anything like this. They used what tools they had at their disposal. Not only that, it sounds like they only used their weapons when they tiger was advancing on them.

It's a tragedy all the way around, but will probably result in new policies to ensure it doesnt happen again.

bonefish wrote in post #4728648
if it is true that they were drunk and taunted the tiger he was not a victim.

Wow, you would not have said that had that been your son killed. Let's not forget, the KID was only 17 years old.

Thanks to Dallas for understanding what I was saying. Humans come first.

It's sad that a boy died, but it looks like they were drunk and stoned. What if they had killed someone driving back? It looks like from the report that a bloodied sign was found in a prohibited area close to the tiger's pen.

It's sad, but it's tough to feel sorry for a young man who goes to the zoo, drunk and stoned, goes into an area he isn't suppose to go, harasses a poor animal which can't run away and then gets attacked by the animal.

I've done stupid things when I was young, but this is way beyond stupidity to just pure reckless behavior. It's tough to feel sorry for those that needlessly risk their life and lose out. Yes, he was 17 and a kid. But a 17 year old should know better than to do something like this.

The boy died as a consequence of his poor decisions and actions. The tiger died defending itself and had no choice in this matter. I'm not some crazed animal lover and do believe that people are way more important than animals but I think this is not a question of whether a boys life or a tigers life is more valuable.
Sorry for the rant...

I had thought about not posting a response but feel I should. Maybe my earlier comment could have been a little more tactfull or better explained.
When I was young I frequently drove drunk, if on one of those times I had driven into a tree and died I would not be a "victim" but somebody who died due to his own actions, if however on my way to the tree I ran over two people on the sidewalk they would be victims.
Alcohol has a tendancy to make one feel bulletproof as the expression goes and maybe the guys believed they were safe from the tiger when they climbed on the railing ( here the zoo may have some of the responsibility for the wall not being high enough ) but they still did something they should not have.

Is it sad that a young man was killed, yes was he a victim no.

As much as I like to visit zoos for the chance to see animals I will never see in the wild it would be nice if they did not need to exist, the first zoos were created as a form of entertainment but now they do so much work towards conservation that soon some species may only exist in zoos so they are needed more than ever.

One thing that no one has pointed out: If the wall in question is in fact too low, it's been too low for 40 years. At least from what I've read, that's the last time it was altered and in fact was raised from where it had been previous.

40 years and this has never happended before?

Its sad for all parties involved!

I hope they resolve this and find out what happened.

MikeI wrote in post #4730236
Wow! I'm a little shocked by some of the comments here. Siding with the animal? Huh? Hopefully you just chose the wrong words or I'm interpreting your statement wrong....

I'm the first to say that I'm sorry the tiger died. It's sad that she lived there relatively peacefully for years, but for whatever reason, she went after the three young men. There was a lot of speculation that they were teasing/taunting her. Many people were crying to wait for the official report. Well, some of it is here now. They WERE taunting her:

http://www.contracosta​times.com/ci_8007892

A tranquilizer gun would have been nice, but not very practical. Tranquilizers take time to take effect. Once person was dead, and others injured. Police Officers are not trained to deal with anything like this. They used what tools they had at their disposal. Not only that, it sounds like they only used their weapons when they tiger was advancing on them.

It's a tragedy all the way around, but will probably result in new policies to ensure it doesnt happen again.

You read exactly what I typed