Canon 1Ds Mark II announced + Wifi transmitter for 1D series

Guess I was thinking of the EU not Europe.

When can we get them? I want mine now!

I've been waiting for this announcement. What's everyones guess as to how long before we can get one? It will be mine, it will be mine! Something tells me I have a serious wait? For planning purposes, how long is the wait going to be on average?

First off, I don't honestly think the UK government cares where you buy your camera. If you buy it in the UK then they get the VAT from the shop purchase. If you buy it l from the States and legally import it then they get it when it comes into the country.

I suspect Canon pockets at least part of the price differential. Their attitude on warranties is probably an attempt to "encourage" us to buy locally and hence protect their dealer network. Otherwise they know that we'd all be importing from the States.

Here is a thought, why don't we all save up enough money, write down a list of item to buy, then fly one or two of us Europeans to the states, buy everything, pack them up(flatten boxes, etc. of course), and bring them back, include the flight ticket, we'd save ourselves big chunk of money, and skipping the vat ...

I know a pro photographer fly to the states once every year just to shopping for gear, for a weekend package to New York, including hotels, flights, he saves couple of grand easily(he does buy A LOT everytime he goes), also a nice little break from work, that's what i call a "win-win" situation.

until you find a bug with it

actually, thinking out loud - it would probably be cheaper to buy imported and if any problems exist, send it to canon uk and pay instead of using the waranty

exactly, also if you become CPS member, they'll do it for free regardless

it actually says on this canon page that the sensor is smaller than the 1Ds.

http://www.canon.co.jp …1dsm2/specifica​tions.html

maybe only 2mm in each direction but its not full frame anymore, is it?

another question.

Assuming that a photographer owns a 1Ds and uses it in a studio - what would be the reason to upgrade apart from a bigger file size?

E-ttl is pretty irrelivent when shooting in a studio, being able to use ISO50 is a bonus but i cant really see anything else. The buffer is more or less the same as are most of the features.

http://www.canon.co.jp …1dsm2/specifica​tions.html

"maybe only 2mm in each direction but its not full frame anymore, is it?"

actually for correctness 0.2mm, but I'm with you 100% on the UK premuim rate for Canon gear, might treat myself when I holiday in US in November ....

evilenglishman wrote:
it actually says on this canon page that the sensor is smaller than the 1Ds.

http://www.canon.co.jp …1dsm2/specifica​tions.html

1Ds 36 x 24 mm
1Ds Mk2 35.8 x 23.8 mm

maybe only 2mm in each direction but its not full frame anymore, is it?

I think you have it the wrong way around - the 1Ds MkII is 36x24 - Check it again.

Have Fun,

CoolToolGuy wrote:
I think you have it the wrong way around - the 1Ds MkII is 36x24 - Check it again.

ooops! appologies all round.

I've been thinking about this and I really don't see the justification of buying this camera in the uk.
I could save £1800 and get a new mk1 version with almost the same features, there don't seem to be that many new features to justify the price difference. But hopefully a lot of 1Ds owners will rush out and buy this camera and I'll have plenty of used 1Ds's to choose from

I really think a lot of this has to do with the policies and goals of the various national importers. I very much remember that in the recent past if you were in the US and wanted to buy Mamya products, you were very foolish if you did not buy them from Robert White in the UK. The prices on professional bodies and lenses were substantially lower than even B&H in New York. Some the differential had to do with the relative strength of the dollar at that time. But a lot of complaining was heard about the relatively high prices of Mamya USA. Perhaps Canon is more realistic.

Other factors may be tax and import differentials. Perhaps Canon feels that it can ask and get a higher price in Europe than in the USA. I believe there is a difference in what the marklet will bear.

And perhaps I am wrong but I also think the camera really is a bit of a leader into subsequent lens sales - - sort of a sale that keeps on producing more profit with each lens sold. Obviously, the more lenses one buys, the more likely one becomes wedded to the camera system. For example, the new Nikon might seem attracting for some, but if a whole new stable of lenses would also have to be purchased I'm not sure how easily such a decision could be made.

Bruce

Not to mention the fact that BOTH are larger than "full frame"... the CCD's are larger than the part that is used.. go figure.

I believe Nikon USA was well known for doing that. I believe it was trying to suppress the gray market here but they even went so far as to refuse to service a non-officially imported camera or lens for the life of the equipment. Since there are many very competent repair firms beside the importer's setup, they also refused to sell parts to such repair firms. I think (but don't know for sure) that the government may have cracked down on that procedure.

What's in it for Canon? It is the creation of a captive market in which it can charge the highest price the market will bear without interference from gray market goods. That can be a powerful prize indeed.

Now, in fairness, I do think there is truth in the claim that an official importer is justified in such practices in order to pay the cost of a maintenance, service and distribution facility in a country. After all, if a national importer does not gain the benefit of a sale but is still expected to bear trhe expense of maintaining a local parts and service facility in order to fix equipment imported from elsewhere, there would be little incentive to set up a local shop. We could then look forward to buying the equipment where we chose but if service became necessary, we might then have to send the stuff back to Japan. So, there are tradeoffs.

Bruce

Hey CDS (pretending to be Bob G. here) - which CCDs are you talking about? I thought Canon was well known for their use of CMOS sensors in their DSLRs!?