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20D vs 1D MK II, which one to buy? Help please

 
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Sep 23, 2004 11:42 |  #1

Right, i've been using 1D for a while, but constantly feel the lack of camera bodies, so I decide to purchase a second body.

Here comes the hard part, 20D or 1D MK II(just under my budget if I get it from the states)?

Both cameras have similar features, but in some way 1D MK II is more advanced and higher burst rate.

I mostly shoot sports and events, sometimes fashion, landscape and portrait. With action, i need the burst, for landscape/portrait/fas​hion, 8.2mp is a bonus when it comes to printing. Also the low noise helps a lot in low light situation.

Oh, i'm also planning to start shooting weddings.

I'm comfortable with size, weight of 1D MK II, with 20D i'll have to get the grip.

p.s i shoot 100% RAW

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Sep 23, 2004 11:58 |  #2

1D MKII, I know you are heavy into sports and whatnot..............c​onsidering you do press level stuff, don't settle for less!

If you get the 20D it will become a backup. if you get the MKII the 1D will become the backup, it's quite a big difference. Your decision to make at the end.



  
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Sep 23, 2004 12:01 |  #3
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[QUOTE="Persian-Rice"]

If you get the 20D it will become a backup. if you get the MKII the 1D will become the backup, it's quite a big difference. Your decision to make at the end.

I do like that point, but i always think of weight.

You figure a backup is going to have a wider lens on it so a grip really isnt needed too much, it would be nice ot have that light camera over your sholder.

But going to a 1dMKII would be a large large improvement...if i had the choice i'd prolly get the MKII


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Sep 23, 2004 12:07 |  #4

weight and camera size doesn't really bother that much, i'm used to 1D.

However, it's the feature vs price that keeps me from making the decision.

1D MK II is like a combination of 1D and 20D, a best of both worlds, but $3000 difference ain't an amount to be ignored. :roll:


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Sep 23, 2004 12:16 |  #5

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Persian-Rice wrote:

If you get the 20D it will become a backup. if you get the MKII the 1D will become the backup, it's quite a big difference. Your decision to make at the end.

I do like that point, but i always think of weight.

You figure a backup is going to have a wider lens on it so a grip really isn't needed too much, it would be nice ot have that light camera over your sholder.

But going to a 1dMKII would be a large large improvement...if i had the choice i'd prolly get the MKII

Thats the diff I guess, it depends on the user, to me weight nor size is an issue, to others its the #1 factor. Other then that, at least IMO, he shoots for ManUtd, if I lost the use of my #1 camera, I would something equivalent in capability as my #2, but he obviously does other work as well, thats why I am not sure, its a difficult choice.

The 1D MKII is better, no questions asked, but does he need it?
SGU, if the 20D seems like the better choice, you can always sell the 1D and buy the 1D MKII and the 20D.......which would technically cost the same as buying the 1D MKII and keeping the 1D.

Personally, If I was in your shoes and in this situation, I would go with the two 1 series camera's

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Sep 23, 2004 12:18 |  #6

sGu, are you making money out of photography (a pro). If yes then go with MKII. Heck, I'm a first class noob but thinking of getting the MKII (but probable won't).




  
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Sep 23, 2004 12:26 |  #7

I'm not a full time pro, that's why it's not an easy decision.

I have to choose carefully, don't wanna throw money away too easily. However, I can see myself working full time in a year or so, it won't be a problem then, before that, I still need you folks' advice.

Also, with 20D and 1D, means i have to buy extra batteries and take two different chargers wherever i go :roll:


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Sep 23, 2004 12:31 |  #8

I can see myself working full time in a year or so

That should make your decision easier. Buy the cheaper one (20D) to save money. And when you go full time, then buy whatever the best at that time, because you can write it off as an expense :wink:




  
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Sep 23, 2004 12:33 |  #9

If cost is not an issue, I would get the 1DMKII............and this will pretty much eclipse your 1D........

Or how about selling your 1D...........and getting the 1DMKII and a used 10D.........

Just a thought...........

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Sep 23, 2004 12:36 |  #10

roanjohn wrote:
If cost is not an issue, I would get the 1DMKII............and this will pretty much eclipse your 1D........

Or how about selling your 1D...........and getting the 1DMKII and a used 10D.........

Just a thought...........

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cost is an issue, i don't have any extra money, just enough to buy a used 1D MK II, so no money flying here.

I would definitely keep 1D rather getting a 10D, I came from 10D and never looked back.


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Sep 23, 2004 12:37 |  #11

Buy both, and send me the one you use the least :wink:

Seriously though, that sounds like a tough decision. However, if you buy the MKII, I'm sure you wont regret it, especially a year from now.
If you buy the 20D, if you are like me, you may always be wondering "what if...."


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Sep 23, 2004 12:37 |  #12

Tough call...

I agree with the assesment that decision is to either get a back up for the 1D, or to replace the 1D with the MkII relegatig the 1D to back-up status.

I see that one of your reasons for a "backup" is really not to use it as a backuo,. but as a second body with a different lens?

If this is correct.. if this is the primary reason for a second body.. then you SHOULD get the mkII. I personally keep a 10D, and now a 20D as "backup"... and although you do get used to it.. it is a bit of a hassle switching from one set of controls to another on a dual camera shoot.

Maintaining the consistancey of controls with all "1D" bodies may be one of your deciding points,.. certainly something to consider.

Also.. if you get the MkII... you also may just trade the 1D for a 20D some day... this is also how I ended up with a mkII and 10D.. I sold the 1D instead.


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Sep 23, 2004 12:37 |  #13

sGu: is there a place where you could rent the 20D and 1D MK II for a day or so? If so rent them both and test them and see which one feels better.




  
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Sep 23, 2004 12:39 |  #14

sGu wrote:
I would definitely keep 1D rather getting a 10D, I came from 10D and never looked back.

In light of that.. then there really is only one option.. The MkII... the 20D is simply a 10D+


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Sep 23, 2004 12:44 |  #15

sGu wrote:
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I would definitely keep 1D rather getting a 10D, I came from 10D and never looked back.

If you hated the 10D, then you'll hate the 20D too.........they are essentially the same...........In a general way of speaking.

.............So, to end all discussion..........ge​t the used 1DMKII!!!

Isn't that easy??

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