Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff The Lounge 
Thread started 15 Jan 2008 (Tuesday) 15:01
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Colorado Lawmaker Kicks Photographer

 
BillsBayou
In trouble with my wife
Avatar
5,025 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans, La. USA! Favorite Cheese: Caciocavallo Invention: Incendiary Spit-Bomb Wait. What?
     
Jan 15, 2008 15:01 |  #1

Douglas Bruce, a state representative for Colorado, apprently didn't get the whole "Peace On Earth" thing this past Christmas. He kicked a photographer during a prayer service for taking his picture. He comes across as a real slimeball. I'd like to see a follow-up on this one.

http://apnews.myway.co​m …e/20080115/D8U6​5FQG0.html (external link)

I did a search for this here. I thought for sure it'd have been posted by now.


Take only pictures, leave only footprints...
"Cameras don't shoot people. Photographers shoot people." - Me
I must not break rule GN.4, Please help me un-see that photo, I must not break rule GN.4...
Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
OdiN1701
Goldmember
Avatar
2,523 posts
Joined Jul 2005
     
Jan 15, 2008 15:21 |  #2
bannedPermanent ban

Yeah it was some guy that was chosen for an empty seat in the house of reps I think?

I didn't vote for the guy - wrong county :P


SAY NO TO SPEC WORK! (external link)
_______________
40D w/ Grip |
20D w/ Grip | 10D
10-22mm|17-40f/4L|24-105f/4LIS|70-200f/2.8LIS|50f/1.4|100f/2.8Macro

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
canon_fire
Senior Member
Avatar
854 posts
Joined Dec 2006
     
Jan 15, 2008 15:59 |  #3

A photog hater ... no one should have voted him in ....




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tandem
Goldmember
Avatar
1,244 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Colorado Springs
     
Jan 16, 2008 13:52 as a reply to  @ canon_fire's post |  #4

This is nothing new - he has long been know as a news whore. I didn't get a chance to vote against him since I am not in his district.

http://www.gazette.com …html/utilities_​right.html (external link)

Bruce or Britney?
Attention-grabbing poliltico embarrasses city


Douglas Bruce seems a lot like Britney Spears these days. Like Spears, Bruce seems to self-destruct in the spotlight. Bruce and Britney have issues with photographers. Britney chose to date an obtrusive cameraman; Bruce chose to kick one.

Sure, Bruce authored a useful, if somewhat flawed, constitutional amendment long ago that mostly empowers Colorado taxpayers and saves them money. For that, we give him credit. Likewise, there was a time when Britney was known for her work. She gave us “Oops I Did it Again.” For that, we give credit where credit is due.

Like Spears, Bruce has morphed into an embarrassment to himself and all his old friends. Unlike Bruce, Spears has an excuse: She’s practically a child, whose maturity was likely stilted by the turmoil of teen stardom. Bruce, by contrast, is a grown and educated man — one entrusted by leading Republicans with representing a district and making it look good.

The latest Bruce shenanigans began with his refusal to take an oath for his new legislative position until the session was well under way. Though controversial, it was an understandable political maneuver to maximize the potential length of his term. No harm, no foul.

Bruce, however, continued refusing the oath past the point of strategic gain. Why? Because he was certain other legislators were picking on him. House Speaker Andrew Romanoff gave Bruce four options for a swearing in, but none was acceptable. He wound up in a standoff with Democrat Romanoff and Republicans, refusing any swearing-in ceremony that didn’t make him a central attraction. Like a fallen pop star, Bruce seemed desperate for attention.

On Monday, fed up members of the House Republican Caucus voted 22-1 to ask the House District 15 Vacancy Committee to appoint someone else to fill the seat if Bruce didn’t take his oath by the end of the day. With that, Bruce backed down and quietly took his oath at 1:32 p.m., with only five other legislators in the chamber. He told reporters that his point had been made: House leadership had picked on him, and now everyone knew it. So take that, House leadership.

Having refused to take the oath, Bruce apparently believed it unwise to resign his seat as an El Paso County commissioner before fellow commissioners began their session Monday. They fined him $10 for an unexcused absence, though Bruce insists it was excused.

Bruce made a spectacle of himself even during the Legislature’s morning prayer. As Bruce prayed — presumably to Jesus, prince of peace — Rocky Mountain News photographer Javier Manzano took his picture. This irritated Bruce the way paparazzi annoy pop stars. So Bruce kicked him. More of a nudge, perhaps, but it was caught on tape. Bruce asked the public to imagine the stress of praying in church with a photographer snapping photos.

Mr. Bruce, the state Capitol isn’t a church. It’s public property and Manzano was permitted to work the floor, conducting important business in the public’s interest. Would Jesus have kicked him for this?

As reported in The Gazette, Rocky Mountain News Publisher and Editor John Temple was considering Monday whether to press charges over the alleged physical assault on his employee. Hmmm. Kicked on state property for conducting one’s lawful duties. It certainly sounds like a crime.

“It does not help the conservative Republican image to have someone acting in this childish manner,” said Dane Nowels, a staunch conservative Republican and vice chairman of the El Paso County Republican Party. “I think this behavior will certainly encourage individuals to primary that seat for another candidate for next November’s election. There will for sure be a primary now, and this gives more strength to his opposition.”

Residents and caucus leaders in District 15 should keep one fact in mind: Douglas Bruce — behaving like a desperate adolescent pop star — is representing you before the entire state. He’s his own worst enemy. But he’s your man. Set him straight.


Bill - A model needs careful lighting, professional makeup and expensive clothes to look as beautiful as any ordinary woman does to a man who has fallen in love with her.
G10, 5D, 1D2n, 1D3, 1Ds3, 1.4x, 2x / 17-40 f4, 24-105 f4 IS, 70-200 f4, 300 f4 IS / 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 IS, 200 f2.8, 300 f2.8 IS, 400 f2.8 IS / 35 f1.4, 50 f1.2, 85 f1.2, 85 f1.8, 100 f2.8M 135 f2
http://ColoradoSprings​.SmugMug.com/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
strmrdr
Goldmember
Avatar
1,853 posts
Joined Sep 2006
     
Jan 16, 2008 15:46 |  #5

should have kicked him twice then sued him for violating his religious rights.


.....
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
20droger
Cream of the Crop
14,685 posts
Likes: 27
Joined Dec 2006
     
Jan 17, 2008 07:49 as a reply to  @ strmrdr's post |  #6

Well, I hate to say it, but I'm glad to see that Arizona (my state) is not the only one with an idiot in office.

Hell, we have to get by with less than 1½ sentors in Washington.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tandem
Goldmember
Avatar
1,244 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Colorado Springs
     
Jan 25, 2008 08:49 as a reply to  @ 20droger's post |  #7

More on DB vs the photographer...

http://www.gazette.com …tml/house_resol​ution.html (external link)

House nearly unanimous on censure

Its members vote 62-1 in favor of punishing Rep. Douglas Bruce for kicking a photographer
span style="text-decoration: underline;"By MICHAEL DAVIDSON (external link)
THE GAZETTE
January 25, 2008 - 7:04AM

DENVER - The Colorado House voted 62-1 Thursday to censure Rep. Douglas Bruce, punishing the appointed El Paso County Republican for kicking a photographer.

A bipartisan committee recommended the censure, the first in the Legislature’s history, after testimony last week from Bruce, Rocky Mountain News photographer Javier Manzano and others who witnessed the altercation.

Bruce kicked Manzano after he was photographing Bruce during the morning prayer on the House floor before Bruce, a midterm replacement filling a vacancy, was sworn in.

Censure required a majority vote of the 65-member House.

Addressing the House before the vote, Bruce continued to downplay the force of his kick and again blamed Manzano for the incident. The photographer had promised to stop taking his photograph during the prayer, Bruce said, but was goaded into it by another photographer.

“I should not have believed that the photographer was going to keep his word, and I should have scurried off to the side room instead,” Bruce said. “But I made a mistake; I trusted a journalist, and I won’t do that again.”

Bruce said he was attempting to maintain decorum that had been disturbed by the media.

Bruce compared himself to the hero of the 1939 Jimmy Stewart movie, “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.” In the movie, Stewart played a freshman congressman who punches a reporter and becomes a hero after collapsing in the midst of a filibuster.

Bruce said that he, like the title character, had been “set up and provoked by the press even before he had been sworn in” and was subject to “a legislative inquisition” led by his opponents.

Bruce was cut short by House Speaker Andrew Romanoff, D-Denver, who invoked a House rule limiting speakers to 10 minutes.

Bruce was further angered when Rep. Al White, R-Hayden, was allowed to rebuke him before the vote.

“Representative Bruce, you’re not Jimmy Stewart, this is not a 1939 movie. This is today. Your actions were wrong,” White said.

Bruce passed out a sevenpage statement to each House member explaining his refusal to apologize to Manzano and listing past misdeeds by House members that went unpunished. In it, he referred to Romanoff as his “executioner.”

Bruce attempted to have the statement put into the official House record, but it was rejected 56-7.

“There has never been an instance of any such action being taken, and who did they take it against? They take it against the author of the Taxpayer’s Bill of Rights before he could even become a member,” Bruce said.

Romanoff said later that Bruce’s claim of an ulterior motive was “false — and, frankly, shameful,” and reiterated the investigation was bipartisan.

The only member to vote against censure was Kevin Lundberg, R-Berthoud. Lundberg said that Bruce was wrong to kick Manzano, but that his misdeed didn’t deserve the harshest punishment ever levied by the House against a member. Bruce was not allowed to vote.

“I have seen incidents that are in my opinion equal to this, and no censure, nor even formal rebuke, occurred,” Lundberg said. “This boxes us in. The next time something comes up somewhere, the standard is censure or nothing.”

Paul Weissmann, D-Louisville, co-chairman of the committee that recommended censure, disagreed that the punishment was too severe.

He said Bruce would have been given a lesser sanction if he had taken responsibility for what he did. The committee considered expelling Bruce but deemed that inappropriate.

“Early on it was decided that it’s not fair for us to disenfranchise the voters of Colorado Springs who sent him here,” Weissmann said.

The committee voted 5-1 to force Bruce to apologize to the House. That was dropped because members said a forced apology would have been hollow, co-chairman Steve King, R-Grand Junction, said.

The Colorado Legislative Council Staff was asked by Bruce to determine whether there had been an instance of a member’s being disciplined in the past. The staff found no record of such an action, but it is missing documents from 1876 to 1879.

The Associated Press contributed to this report


Bill - A model needs careful lighting, professional makeup and expensive clothes to look as beautiful as any ordinary woman does to a man who has fallen in love with her.
G10, 5D, 1D2n, 1D3, 1Ds3, 1.4x, 2x / 17-40 f4, 24-105 f4 IS, 70-200 f4, 300 f4 IS / 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 IS, 200 f2.8, 300 f2.8 IS, 400 f2.8 IS / 35 f1.4, 50 f1.2, 85 f1.2, 85 f1.8, 100 f2.8M 135 f2
http://ColoradoSprings​.SmugMug.com/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BillsBayou
THREAD ­ STARTER
In trouble with my wife
Avatar
5,025 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans, La. USA! Favorite Cheese: Caciocavallo Invention: Incendiary Spit-Bomb Wait. What?
     
Jan 25, 2008 09:29 |  #8

These are great update articles on the original story.

I still think the photographer should press charges.

"Kicked on state property for conducting one’s lawful duties. It certainly sounds like a crime."

You better believe it is. Attitude goes a long way towards adjudicating incidents like this. His attitude is still hostile when faced with an overwhelming vote to censure. If I were the photographer, I'd press charges for assault. I just hope the photographer's access isn't harmed by pressing charges against this rogue legislator.


Take only pictures, leave only footprints...
"Cameras don't shoot people. Photographers shoot people." - Me
I must not break rule GN.4, Please help me un-see that photo, I must not break rule GN.4...
Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tandem
Goldmember
Avatar
1,244 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Colorado Springs
     
Aug 13, 2008 10:33 as a reply to  @ BillsBayou's post |  #9

Bye-bye Mr. Bruce...

http://www.gazette.com …ml/waller_repub​lican.html (external link)

This is to provide closure on the saga of Mr. Bruce vs the photographer. Remember not to get political with any comments.  :p


Bill - A model needs careful lighting, professional makeup and expensive clothes to look as beautiful as any ordinary woman does to a man who has fallen in love with her.
G10, 5D, 1D2n, 1D3, 1Ds3, 1.4x, 2x / 17-40 f4, 24-105 f4 IS, 70-200 f4, 300 f4 IS / 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 IS, 200 f2.8, 300 f2.8 IS, 400 f2.8 IS / 35 f1.4, 50 f1.2, 85 f1.2, 85 f1.8, 100 f2.8M 135 f2
http://ColoradoSprings​.SmugMug.com/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BillsBayou
THREAD ­ STARTER
In trouble with my wife
Avatar
5,025 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Mar 2006
Location: New Orleans, La. USA! Favorite Cheese: Caciocavallo Invention: Incendiary Spit-Bomb Wait. What?
     
Aug 13, 2008 11:11 |  #10

I wish I could have been there to take his picture when he lost.

Thanks for finding this.


Take only pictures, leave only footprints...
"Cameras don't shoot people. Photographers shoot people." - Me
I must not break rule GN.4, Please help me un-see that photo, I must not break rule GN.4...
Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,025 views & 0 likes for this thread, 6 members have posted to it.
Colorado Lawmaker Kicks Photographer
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff The Lounge 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
910 guests, 122 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.