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Why I love RAW - '53 Ford Sunliner (Fixed)

 
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Sep 25, 2004 19:04 |  #1

Rag-top, a pearl paint job, bubble skirts, lakes pipes, Packard tail lights, frenched headlights... what more could a kid in the '50s want?

I almost missed this one. The tripod was already in the trunk when I saw it, so I grabbed a couple quick shots at minimum settings before he drove away. Being a film guy for years, I totally forgot that I could have bumped up the ISO! I also forgot to take the bright background into consideration. The car was the subject, not the sunset, right? So here's the results.

300D, Kit lens, ISO 200, RAW, Manual everything.
1/80 sec, f-4.5, FL= 18mm.

This is a jpeg from the umprocessed RAW file. Nice, huh?

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/53-Ford_RAWtiff_05.jpg


These are the results after processing RAW +2.0 exposure into tiffs, & the usual PS work.
IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/53-Ford_Sunliner_Front_07.jpg


IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Car%20Stuff/53-Ford_Sunliner_side_05.jpg

JRA'a totally black image: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1284715

One of Zivnuska's underexposed saves: https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=15447434&po​stcount=26

And here's one of Butts overexposed ones: https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18572332

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Sep 25, 2004 19:09 |  #2

Great job Frank.


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Sep 26, 2004 10:27 |  #3

Thanks, Conk. This post seems to be "going down the tubes" fast. Maybe I should have added (topless) to the title? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Sep 27, 2004 17:37 |  #4

Apologies

Photobucket was down all weekend. Apologies to those who waited for this to load. :cry:


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Sep 27, 2004 17:48 |  #5

wow is all i can say. that is a great testament to use raw. which i have slowly come around to using, because of pics like this. i'm even saving the raw files to maybe visit a year later to see if i can do even better processing. now if i could only get my PS skills up there i would be happy.
great job Frank.
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Sep 27, 2004 18:29 |  #6





love the first shot especially

great atmosphere in it


8)


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Sep 27, 2004 19:00 |  #7

marie wrote:




love the first shot especially

great atmosphere in it


8)

Marie hit it right on the nail head.

The PS work is great too. :wink:
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The Captain and crew finally got their stuff together, now if we can only remember where we left it. :cool:

  
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Sep 27, 2004 22:33 |  #8

I really like shot #2.
Excellent cropping and composition. It almost looks 3D.


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Sep 28, 2004 00:09 |  #9

I not normally a 'still life' person, but these are just great shots. 8) 8)




  
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Sep 28, 2004 01:37 |  #10

Very classy shots, think I may start experimenting with raw after seeing these... :D




  
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Sep 28, 2004 01:57 |  #11

PhotosGuy wrote:
This is a jpeg from the umprocessed RAW file. Nice, huh?
QUOTED IMAGE


These are the results after processing RAW +2.0 exposure into tiffs, & the usual PS work.
QUOTED IMAGE

I didn't know that you could rotate the car when shooting RAW . Or do you have this blade-runner aka CSI-plugin for PS? :wink:

Great job...

how long does it take to isolate the car from the background.
I've never tried doing it because of the long (my guess) time needed


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Sep 28, 2004 06:59 |  #12

how long does it take to isolate the car from the background.

The more you do it, the faster it is.
To select it & hide the background: Selecting areas in PS.
1. 5 minutes for the (dark) bottom of the car:
Add an adjustment layer (Levels) & kick up the brightness so I can see what I'm doing. Make the selection & save it, then turn off the adjustment layer. Then add the rest of the car to the selection & save it = another 5 minutes.
2. Erase or hide the background. see the bottom link.
3. Recall the selection, invert it, & expand it 1-2 pixels. Then erase any halo like the one you see at the top of the fender at the right in the first pic. (I didn't do that here before I posted the pic - I usually wait 'till I see what it looks like against whatever background I end up using.) Maybe another 5 minutes for that.
So, about 15 minutes for the whole process + time wasted if I see something interesting on the TV while I'm doing this.

EDIT: Using a Layer Mask to hide part of an image. Advantage is that the mask is reversible, where the effect of an eraser is not.
Need to remove a background from something?


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Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers.
Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET!
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Sep 28, 2004 07:17 |  #13

PhotosGuy wrote:
how long does it take to isolate the car from the background.

The more you do it, the faster it is.
To select it & erase the background: (See my 'selection' tutorial in Post Processing)
1. 5 minutes for the (dark) bottom of the car:
Add an adjustment layer (Levels) & kick up the brightness so I can see what I'm doing. Make the selection & save it, then turn off the adjustment layer. Then add the rest of the car to the selection & save it = another 5 minutes.
2. Erase the background.
3. Recall the selection, invert it, & expand it 1-2 pixels. Then erase any halo like the one you see at the top of the fender at the right in the first pic. (I didn't do that here before I posted the pic - I usually wait 'till I see what it looks like against whatever background I end up using.) Maybe another 5 minutes for that.
So, about 15 minutes for the whole process + time wasted if I see something interesting on the TV while I'm doing this.

Seems easy :wink:
I guess it's all about training... like 1st time 3 hours, second time 2hours 59 minutes... etc 100th time 15 minutes :twisted:
I'll give it a try, just read your tutorial too... very interesting...


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Sep 28, 2004 09:45 |  #14

Wow, great work as always Frank.




  
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Sep 28, 2004 19:37 |  #15

... etc 100th time 15 minutes

That's it! Thanks, 4walls.


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