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Feb 07, 2008 07:15 as a reply to  @ post 4869185 |  #16

Here's the problem. Point & Shoot cameras all use little itty bitty sensors that really hamstring the cameras when it comes to low light performance. The lenses on P&S cameras, even good ones, are good but not great. All of this is just fine & dandy when the P&S camera costs $150 or $250. By the time you're spending $400, you're putting a lot of money into a camera that just doesn't have $400 worth of overall image quality.

The DSLR, even though it is more money, uses a larger sensor and better lenses. Compared to my A720, a DSLR is a lot of money, but if you're talking $400, then you're getting within spitting distance (sort of) of a "real" camera.

I believe the best DSLR for those stepping up from a P&S is the Nikon D40 (not x). IQ and usability is head & shoulders above the P&S. I sold mine used for $425 with a skylight filter, extra battery and a case. The only drawback to the camera is lens compatibility. That camera is AF with only some of the Nikon lenses. Also, Nikon glass is more costly than Canon glass. But, if you treat the D40 like a P&S (i.e. never put a different lens on it) then it is an absolutely wonderful little camera that works better and produces better images out of the box than the Rebel XTi.

In summary, I recommend either spending less than $400 on a P&S (I love my A570. SX100 is also sweet) or use your $400 to pick up a used D40. If you decide you want other lenses, sell the D40 later and move to a Canon Rebel XTi (used) so you have access to the world of Canon lenses.


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Feb 07, 2008 08:41 as a reply to  @ n1as's post |  #17

It's a pity when a person can't go on a forum named "small compact digitals by Canon" requesting suggestions for buying a compact camera, without being told to forget the compact and buy an SLR. And what's even worse, is to be told that a compact camera isn't a "real" camera! Only a true bona fide equipment snob would say such a thing. "Real' photographers know better than that!

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Feb 07, 2008 10:30 |  #18

Hey everyone, I guess I forgot to write back. I ended up saving a few hundred more and bought a mint condition used 30d. I'm definitely happy I didn't settle for a P&S. Thanks everyone.


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Feb 07, 2008 10:32 as a reply to  @ Angdvl089's post |  #19

That's great! Glad you got what you wanted.

But point and shoots are still "real" cameras! :D

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Feb 07, 2008 10:46 |  #20

JustShootin wrote in post #4869636 (external link)
=JustShootin';4869636]​It's a pity when a person can't go on a forum named "small compact digitals by Canon" requesting suggestions for buying a compact camera, without being told to forget the compact and buy an SLR. And what's even worse, is to be told that a compact camera isn't a "real" camera! Only a true bona fide equipment snob would say such a thing. "Real' photographers know better than that!

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Well, I don't think there's any equipment snobbery going on here. Just people who have experience with both P&S and DSLR making recommendations based on that experience.

Who ever said P&S wasn't a real camera anyway?

Your signature tells me you have both. What are YOUR recommendations? Should OP spend $400 on a P&S? Should he spend less, should save a bit longer and go DSLR?

Oops, never mind. OP went DSLR. Seems the DSLR advice wasn't so off-topic after all.


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Feb 07, 2008 12:33 as a reply to  @ n1as's post |  #21

Dang, I think I just got out-blabbered! ;)

Anyway, I'm just glad Angdvl089 got what he wanted, and sure wish him much luck with his purchase! Now I'm going to grap my Kodak instamatic and a fresh 110 cartrige and go shootin'!

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Feb 07, 2008 15:09 |  #22

JustShootin wrote in post #4871010 (external link)
=JustShootin';4871010]​Dang, I think I just got out-blabbered! ;)

Anyway, I'm just glad Angdvl089 got what he wanted, and sure wish him much luck with his purchase! Now I'm going to grap my Kodak instamatic and a fresh 110 cartrige and go shootin'!

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Actually, the Pocket Instamatic 50 and 60 were incredibly advanced cameras. The 60 even had a split-image rangefinder. And the AE on both was incredibly accurate. I sorta wish I had my 50 back now, although finding film might be a bit of a hassle. But a small, very capable, pocket sized camera. What a brilliant idea.

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Feb 07, 2008 15:20 |  #23

Glasstream15 wrote in post #4871975 (external link)
Actually, the Pocket Instamatic 50 and 60 were incredibly advanced cameras. The 60 even had a split-image rangefinder. And the AE on both was incredibly accurate. I sorta wish I had my 50 back now, although finding film might be a bit of a hassle. But a small, very capable, pocket sized camera. What a brilliant idea.

:rolleyes:

Believe it or not, but our local Walmart still stocks 110 film.

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Feb 08, 2008 10:03 |  #24

JustShootin wrote in post #4869636 (external link)
=JustShootin';4869636]​It's a pity when a person can't go on a forum named "small compact digitals by Canon" requesting suggestions for buying a compact camera, without being told to forget the compact and buy an SLR. And what's even worse, is to be told that a compact camera isn't a "real" camera! Only a true bona fide equipment snob would say such a thing. "Real' photographers know better than that!

Gary

he said he wanted the xti though, so im guessing he'd like our input on both cameras and how they compare (almost quoted from him)

dont make it a fight :) stay happy.

and my input is, i just bought an xt and kit lens for my boyfriend for $300 altogether.
save 100 more for a cheapter zoom like tamron and YAY! fine quality sports pics with an option to upgrade in the future.

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Angdvl089 wrote in post #4870265 (external link)
Hey everyone, I guess I forgot to write back. I ended up saving a few hundred more and bought a mint condition used 30d. I'm definitely happy I didn't settle for a P&S. Thanks everyone.

see what patience does? :)


  
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Feb 08, 2008 11:58 |  #25

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dont make it a fight :) stay happy.

Gosh, Im not looking for a fight. Never been in one in my life. As for being happy, I've never been any other way! I'm also very happy that the OP found a deal on what he wants.

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