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Feb 01, 2008 21:19 |  #1231

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thanks Cat. It was rather traumatic actually. I think I'd have been okay, if they'd actually been able to land the goose and eat it but they couldn't. And it died :( Dan says that someone will eventually eat it. I hope so.

The relevance of eating something that has been killed is a human emotion ingrained into us from childhood to justify killing. "It is okay we/they had to eat". It is actually an irrelevant fact other than our emotion. The prey is dead whether it is eaten or not. Also what qualifies it as a quality eating? All organic matter is ultimately consumed by insects, bacteria, mold, and probably little fish and invertebrates in this case. In this country we are ingrained, through school curriculum, with the idea native Americans being correct in their hunting because they allegedly always used the whole animal and regretted it's death. In modern society a hunter who shoots an animal and puts it on his wall is often viewed as sick but if he eats that animal it is okay. Again the only relevance is to our emotion. The impact to the animal, the environment, and the economy are all the same. Even if that goose did not get eaten by a recognizable cute or majestic(by human standards) animal, it fed worms and invertebrates. The young eagle learned a lesson in hunting, and it practiced it's hunting which it relies on for survival. If you place the goose in it's proper place in the food chain it is a prey animal put here in great numbers to die and feed other creatures. As I view it, it was a win win win situation for all involved, oh except for the goose:p. This rambling message has been brought to you by Zane's sense of reality, carry on.


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Feb 01, 2008 21:34 as a reply to  @ short5's post |  #1232

sorry Zane...I know it's nature. It's still sad for me. I'll forever anthropomorphize things I guess.


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ahem: I have a news bulletin!! And FINALLY the okay to tell:


come late Sept, or early Oct (or thereabouts) I'm GONNA BE A GRANDMA!


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Feb 01, 2008 21:35 |  #1233

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sorry Zane...I know it's nature. It's still sad for me. I'll forever anthropomorphize things I guess.


oh and

:D:DI responded in the other room but congratulations to you and Grampa.


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Feb 01, 2008 21:36 as a reply to  @ short5's post |  #1234

thanks Zane. We've known for a little over a week but have been told to be quiet...it's been killing us.

Gramps is sick with the flu and in bed atm.


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Feb 01, 2008 21:38 |  #1235

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thanks Zane. We've known for a little over a week but have been told to be quiet...it's been killing us.

I know how hard it is for you to keep a secret :-D ;-)a But you did it well this time...




  
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Feb 01, 2008 21:38 |  #1236

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I know how hard it is for you to keep a secret :-D ;-)a But you did it well this time...

uh huh! I was mostly good lil grandma to be :lol:


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Feb 01, 2008 21:38 |  #1237

Permagrin wrote in post #4833653 (external link)
thanks Zane. We've known for a little over a week but have been told to be quiet...it's been killing us.

Gramps is sick with the flu and in bed atm.

Oh no:( give him my best. From a distance so you don't get it.


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Feb 01, 2008 22:01 |  #1238

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Well, folks, I just finished my taxes. And despite my bill collector love note, I still made out handily this year. Expect something to change soon in my gear list... :D


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Feb 01, 2008 22:15 |  #1239

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Well, folks, I just finished my taxes. And despite my bill collector love note, I still made out handily this year. Expect something to change soon in my gear list... :D

Back up on the wave eh:D? That's great Mike, glad to hear it.


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Feb 01, 2008 22:34 |  #1240

Hello.

Went to dinner and a concert, the group with the little bus I linked you to the other day. They did a tribute to Dan Folgelberg, all proceeds will go to the American Cancer Society. Our choir director is part of the group and as soon as she sang one of her songs I wanted to run home and put up a You Tube link.:-( I'm sure Cat and Zane like it...Run for the Roses.

PERMIE and DAN congratulations, you will love being Gams, late September eh? I happen to know from experience the 27th is a good birthday date. Just as CJ. ;-)a

Great capture of nature being nature, Permie.

ZANE nice hosing.

DEB beautiful flowers.

CRISSA and WANDA sorry I missed you, looks like a wonderful complex you are in, nice you are all having a great time and can do a little bit each day and relax instead of doing a lot and getting exhausted.

MIKE glad things look better today.


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Feb 01, 2008 22:46 |  #1241

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Hello.

I wanted to run home and put up a You Tube link.:-( I'm sure Cat and Zane like it...Run for the Roses.

Hello:) I loved the video, great images.

Random race shot

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Feb 01, 2008 22:58 |  #1242

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Hello:) I loved the video, great images.

Did you watch the one with all the horses? That white one looks like an Arabian.

There is also one tributed to Barbaro. Such a sad story after coming so far.


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Feb 01, 2008 22:59 |  #1243

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Random shot

The colors on the firemen are fantastic, Zane!

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They did great today but have been averaging only about 4-5 hours per park. I'm about to fire up the jacuzzi for us all to enjoy.

Allie and I had our toes done yesterday!

Cute toesies :)

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hey guys if you want to see an eagle vs goose battle (the goose lost, but it was all at a distance), this is what we saw today. Sorry for the shots, stupidly my shutter speed was too low

https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=4833060&pos​tcount=993

Wow! So cool that you got to see this!

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Well, folks, I just finished my taxes. And despite my bill collector love note, I still made out handily this year. Expect something to change soon in my gear list... :D

Excellent, Mike :D

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Hello:) I loved the video, great images.

Random race shot

Again, WOW on the color!


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Feb 01, 2008 22:59 as a reply to  @ Becky N's post |  #1244

I like the race shot a lot :)


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Feb 01, 2008 23:00 |  #1245

I watched the first one listed that was all horses, let me look at the white horse again


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