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Feb 11, 2008 12:19 |  #196

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I agree; if everyone had such a naive and cynical attitude about what was and was not viable, possible, or price-worthy it would certainly become self-fulfilling. Thankfully many truly "innovative" men have proved the rest of the sheep that live in the box to be wrong over and over and over. Those lacking innovation will never understand that just because you don't know how to do something doesn't mean it can't be done.

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  • Well informed people know it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value.
    - Editorial in the Boston Post (1865)

  • Men might as well project a voyage to the Moon as attempt to employ steam navigation against the stormy North Atlantic Ocean.
    - Dr. Dionysus Lardner (1838) Professor of Natural Philosophy and Astronomy, University College, London

  • "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." -- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943.
  • "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977.
  • "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." -- Western Union internal memo, 1876.
  • "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?" -- David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s.
  • "While theoretically and technically television may be feasible, commercially and financially it is an impossibility." -- Lee DeForest, inventor.
  • "Radio has no future. Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. X-rays will prove to be a hoax." -- William Thomson, Lord Kelvin, British scientist, 1899.
  • "So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'" -- Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and HP interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer.
  • "If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this." -- Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M "Post-It" Notepads.
  • "That Professor Goddard with his 'chair' in Clark College and the countenancing of the Smithsonian Institution does not know the relation of action to reaction, and of the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react--to say that would be absurd. Of course, he only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." -- 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work. The remark was retracted in the July 17, 1969 issue.
  • "You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of your muscles? It can't be done. It's just a fact of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of weight training." -- Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" problem by inventing Nautilus.
  • "Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy." -- Workers whom Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859.
  • "The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives." -- Admiral William Leahy, U.S. Atomic Bomb Project.
  • "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value." -- Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre.
  • "There will never be a bigger plane built." -- A Boeing engineer, after the first flight of the 247, a twin engine plane that holds ten people.
  • "Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." -- Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872.

Hey... Thanks for putting that together!

Some people have a place in innovative thinking, other people have a place in their own strong suit. Some are great at starting up new companies, but can't keep one alive to save themselves. Others are masters at keeping them alive, but are clueless to the innovation (can do attitude) and knowledge it takes to start a successful business. There's a place for both.

A few highlights from the last 100 years or so...
The first automobile
The first airplane
Space travel
Personal computers
Test tube babies
Cloning of animals
Nuclear fusion
The growing of a human jawbone from a persons "own" stem cells inside their abdomen (saw the story on it last week).

Almost every one of those things was invented by a nation of innovators. The U.S. and capitalism in general inspires creative thinking. We even have a saying... "Si se puede" (yes it can be done)... LOL - sorry couldn't resist the joke, borrowed that one from South of the border (they're annexing our Southern states so it's becoming familiar to us). :-)

There will always be naysayers and there will always be innovators, but in the end the only thing that remains the same is "change". I'm happy Sigma is being innovative in this new camera and hope they take the ball and run with it for a while.


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Feb 11, 2008 12:23 |  #197

BottomBracket wrote in post #4896271 (external link)
True that. Speaking of DVD and VHS, well I bought a Betamax player once. Boy was that a mistake.

You must be an old guy! :-) (jk I'm 41 myself).


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Feb 11, 2008 12:27 |  #198

Yes, let's keep moving forward. We're almost complete on Global Warming.


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Feb 11, 2008 12:29 |  #199

BottomBracket wrote in post #4896271 (external link)
True that. Speaking of DVD and VHS, well I bought a Betamax player once. Boy was that a mistake.

This saddens me. My father used to have a betamax player and as a hobby, he would record movies on HBO, Showtime, etc. etc. on Betamax tape and keep it all organized and this and that.

He has long passed away and to this day, I still have this collection of about 100 movies or so on beta tape in storage (for keepsake reasons).

Now we have Netflix, movies on Demand, DVD burning, etc. I wonder if he's rolling in his grave.


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Feb 11, 2008 12:30 |  #200

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Yes, let's keep moving forward. We're almost complete on Global Warming.

LOL almost full circle on global warming, is that what you meant to say? Back to the days of next ice age is coming (the sky is falling) of the 70's? Now they're trying to change the mantra from "man made global warming" to "extreme climate change".


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Feb 11, 2008 12:34 |  #201

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LOL almost full circle on global warming, is that what you meant to say? Back to the days of next ice age is coming (the sky is falling) of the 70's? Now they're trying to change the mantra from "man made global warming" to "extreme climate change".

Whichever sounds more scarier? LOL. I know that on History Channel, Discovery Channel, etc. they have been so many "Global Warming" shows.

6 degree climate change
Snowball Earth
Eruption of Yosemite
Top 7 disasters (#1 being Global Warming)

Why? Because we just keep pumping out technology! Sigma is also the devil!


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Feb 11, 2008 12:35 |  #202
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You must be an old guy! :-) (jk I'm 41 myself).

Bottom Bracket's an old man?

****, I must be gay caz that's a cute pic...


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That's what they said about the great thinkers and doers in society.

I know this is a tacky question; but are you filipina?

I lived just outside Angeles city for a year...


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Feb 11, 2008 12:40 |  #204

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Quite true. I wonder why some people are adamant in saying that it is not possible, even resorting to childish dismissiveness when offered facts. Diffractive Optics, or DO lenses by Canon have greatly decreased the size and weight of lenses while retaining excellent optical qualities. Has the limit in decreasing the size further been reached? I would not think so , given the thrust in research by these companies, and the increasing trend towards nanotechnology. Will it be expensive? Heck yeah, initially. But anyone who has bought a VHS or DVD player when they first came out know how prices plunge as technology becomes commonplace.

The Sigma DP1 is an important camera for the industry, because it is a step in another direction. As most innovations, it may catch on or not, and it might spur other companies to follow suit, or not. It would be interesting see what will happen in the near future.

There is a no correlation between "possible" and "probable".

Can I know your experience in innovation and technology and the business of both, please?

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Feb 11, 2008 12:43 |  #205

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I know this is a tacky question; but are you filipina?

I lived just outside Angeles city for a year...

Filipino! You lived in Mabalacat? Dau?


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Feb 11, 2008 12:47 |  #206

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Filipino! You lived in Mabalacat? Dau?

Manila baby!


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Filipino! You lived in Mabalacat? Dau?

In a tiny little town called Malino,, about 5 minutes to town via Jeepney..


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Feb 11, 2008 12:51 |  #208

Ah ok. I am not quite sure where that is. What brought you there?


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Manila baby!

Hey nuts (was that appropriate?) you mean you're from Manila?


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There is a no correlation between "possible" and "probable".

Can I know your experience in innovation and technology and the business of both, please?

J

Yes,,, it's impossible... There will never be a compact camera that can do iso-800 like a dslr today can... Can't be done.. we get it..

Gonna take a wild guess here and say you are neither Japanese nor German.


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