Kiwi - GKPE - General Ramblings (4)

tag141 wrote in post #4906623
Hope I get my investment out before any more companies go tits up. MFS is looking a bit shakey as well.

we just about invested in them (bluechip). we were approached about two years ago. pretty much refered to them by a friend who was about 7 properties through them last time I heard. Good thing we held off & though about it first.

I wonder how he's doing or if he managed to get out before the fall?

Kawaka wrote in post #4906632
I am very interested in seeing how you all gauge your work, as far as I can tell the only real way of seeing where your work sits in relation to some of the best photographers in NZ is to enter competitions.
A lot of these are open to all comers ie (easter show) and have great prize money ($1000 for a 1st place). The bigger shows are judged by a panel of up to 5 qualified people.
Being a member of a Photographic Club or the PSNZ will allow your work to enter more shows.
I don't think an on line forum is going to achieve to this level.

Bryan
PS if you want to see where u are in relation to world class photographers there are competition for that also.

I think most of us are of the opinion that competitions are fatally flawed. Using them to line yourself up against others is one thing but the judgements are never definitive, rather they're completely subjective. I've yet to see a competition that has ever been even close to agreed that it was definitive and everyone agreed on the outcome.

If your work is pure genius but the dude on the hudging panel doesn't like it you're screwed.

Kawaka wrote in post #4906632
I am very interested in seeing how you all gauge your work, as far as I can tell the only real way of seeing where your work sits in relation to some of the best photographers in NZ is to enter competitions.
A lot of these are open to all comers ie (easter show) and have great prize money ($1000 for a 1st place). The bigger shows are judged by a panel of up to 5 qualified people.
Being a member of a Photographic Club or the PSNZ will allow your work to enter more shows.
I don't think an on line forum is going to achieve to this level.

Bryan
PS if you want to see where u are in relation to world class photographers there are competition for that also.

Yes how does 1 gauge 1s work.

Dave you optimist

manipula wrote in post #4906784
If your work is pure genius but the dude on the hudging panel doesn't like it you're screwed.

Isn't that why there's a panel of judges with an odd number of judges.? They can all have different opinions on a photo but they all have to agree on the merits of the photo.

weka2000 wrote in post #4906801
Dave you optimist

<sigh>

Wazza wrote in post #4906308
He's fine.
Very busy with work, I'll try and see him in the next week, or maybe get him out for a shoot next week?

He's since just got a new replacement bike through the insurance. So that hasn't deterred him

thats good news - send him my thoughts..

tag141 wrote in post #4906835
Isn't that why there's a panel of judges with an odd number of judges.? They can all have different opinions on a photo but they all have to agree on the merits of the photo.

Never seen that work either...

Kawaka wrote in post #4906632
I am very interested in seeing how you all gauge your work, as far as I can tell the only real way of seeing where your work sits in relation to some of the best photographers in NZ is to enter competitions...

i dont really like comparing my work with others' - it either makes you smug if you think its better, or it makes you depressed if you think its worse LOL

the closest i will come to that is to compare my STYLE to another photographer - and then try to learn from them

i shoot to please myself - my own tastes change as i become capable of better/different things - yet i can still look back on some old work and go wow* to myself, and feel lucky that i caught it. and when i shoot for someone else, i am STILL shooting to please myself - how can i hand over anything to a client that i dont believe in myself?

*and i can look back and go yuk too - don't get me wrong LOL

manipula wrote in post #4906784
If your work is pure genius but the dude on the hudging panel doesn't like it you're screwed.

hudging - now theres a sport that needs to be revived...

somethingsimple wrote in post #4906853
hudging - now theres a sport that needs to be revived...

think 'Morris Dancing'

::John:: wrote in post #4906884
think 'Morris Dancing'

ok sure - thats always good for a laugh

manipula wrote in post #4906842
Never seen that work either...

So how can you have a competition that's fair. You're saying you can't. Get three monkeys, two babies and corpse as judges? Have you ever done jury duty?

Every photo competition I've seen there's been flaws with. C4 ran a national millenium one, and they've just run that 'Picture This' competition in the UK, both of which were widely panned for having a jury so intent on 'Turner Prize-esque' high art mentality that their choices were seen by a high percentage of those interetd or entered as skewed.

And every camera club I've ever seen has had some head honcho who everyone either fears like he's a thirs world dictator or brown nose so much, that any judging panel has had a distinct tint in his or her favour...

I've seen the World Press Phot exhibition a few times now which is essentially just a competition but noone goes there to see if they measure up, they go to see people good at their craft show the world's stories in pictures.

I think competitions have their place but I really don't think you can use them as a defining rule...

sorry to keep jumping in with random stuff....

http://gizmodo.com …e-bfg-of-telephoto-lenses

WTF???

sorry another one http://gizmodo.com …00mm-ultra-telephoto-lens

WTF???

Don28 wrote in post #4907213
sorry to keep jumping in with random stuff....

http://gizmodo.com …e-bfg-of-telephoto-lenses

WTF???

You obviously missed the one on TM recently. Wouldn't a 600 and 2xTC do just as well?

I guess the ulitamte test is sales of your work. Dont worry Dave you will make millions out of your photography....down side is you will be dead and famous. Your kids will thank you

Dave ........ A photographer ahead of his time