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Feb 14, 2008 04:52 |  #61

That's a good read, thanks. I'm looking forward to receiving 'I Protest!' now. Were there any other major magazines besides Life/(Time?) which were widely read?


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Feb 14, 2008 13:06 |  #62

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Do research on this subject (external link). The photo (external link), taken during the Tet Offensive, had an impact on how Americans viewed the war.

That's the first picture that came to mind when I saw this thread!


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Feb 15, 2008 04:01 |  #63

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That's the first picture that came to mind when I saw this thread!

One of my original ones too. Need some more general ones to analyse set styles.


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Feb 15, 2008 21:11 as a reply to  @ adam*'s post |  #64

You might want to go waay back to see when we got involved.

If memory serves me right, Ike sent the first few advisors to Nam at French request, Kennedy more, then Johnson really went whole hog.
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Feb 15, 2008 21:26 |  #65

I think for me, the seige of Khe Sanh was the big one for me. I was back about a year, and had a couple friends there, and I watched every minute of it on TV. I use to race home to catch it on the early news every night after work and everyone I knew was talking about it at work, almost everyone knew someone in Nam at the time. We had radios going all day and a lot of work came to a grinding halt in favor of listening to news breaks during the day.


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Feb 17, 2008 07:48 |  #66

chauncey wrote in post #4926934 (external link)
You might want to go waay back to see when we got involved.

If memory serves me right, Ike sent the first few advisors to Nam at French request, Kennedy more, then Johnson really went whole hog.
The domino theory!

Don't think i'll go into the background to the war really, probably just add background context to the photo's.

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I think for me, the seige of Khe Sanh was the big one for me. I was back about a year, and had a couple friends there, and I watched every minute of it on TV. I use to race home to catch it on the early news every night after work and everyone I knew was talking about it at work, almost everyone knew someone in Nam at the time. We had radios going all day and a lot of work came to a grinding halt in favor of listening to news breaks during the day.

Thanks for that, I recently got 'I Protest', by David Douglas Duncan - really is a great book from what i've had chance to look at so far. It's concerned soley with Khe Sanh too. Will be comparing the photo's effects vs TV / written articles as a large part of my work.


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Feb 17, 2008 08:11 |  #67

Well, if I remember right, Khe Sanh was the first time they really got into listing body counts. Ours, as well as theirs. It was also the first big daily showing of video from the front lines, less than 2 days old. I even remember the anouncers explaining how they had special jets set up to fly the "film" back to the states so it could be shown "fresh" to us in our livingrooms, as there was no digital and satellites shooting data around the world in seconds at that time.

Which in itself might be an interesting side story. I believe that war and the appetite we have for images of others doing the suffering played a huge part in the commercialization of "video from the front lines". [pathetic, aren't we?] But if someone is going to pay for it, let's do it.


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Feb 18, 2008 06:03 |  #68

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Well, if I remember right, Khe Sanh was the first time they really got into listing body counts. Ours, as well as theirs. It was also the first big daily showing of video from the front lines, less than 2 days old. I even remember the anouncers explaining how they had special jets set up to fly the "film" back to the states so it could be shown "fresh" to us in our livingrooms, as there was no digital and satellites shooting data around the world in seconds at that time.

Which in itself might be an interesting side story. I believe that war and the appetite we have for images of others doing the suffering played a huge part in the commercialization of "video from the front lines". [pathetic, aren't we?] But if someone is going to pay for it, let's do it.

True, and it still goes on until this day. If people always paid attention to the photographs / TV then then some situations may have been better solved /avoided. Duncan is very critical of the 'body count' mentality which developed during the war, seemingly used to justify victories.


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Feb 18, 2008 06:11 |  #69

TV had an even bigger impact.

First war on TV.


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Feb 18, 2008 06:43 as a reply to  @ S.Horton's post |  #70

Your right Sam, video/TV and the "stills" in Life magazine.


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Feb 24, 2008 16:49 |  #71

hortonsl62 wrote in post #4939969 (external link)
TV had an even bigger impact.

First war on TV.

I'll definately look into it, finding more out every day!

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Your right Sam, video/TV and the "stills" in Life magazine.

Were the stills from video, or do you mean photographs?


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Feb 24, 2008 19:18 |  #72

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You work on Laos is beautiful and compelling

Thank you Jubilee..Ignoring its problems and tragic history Laos is a beautiful little country..It is deplorable the US military bombed the Bejesus out of Laos, a neutral country during the Second Indo-Chinese War..

But still a wonderful place to live and work..

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Feb 25, 2008 05:48 |  #73

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Thank you Jubilee..Ignoring its problems and tragic history Laos is a beautiful little country..It is deplorable the US military bombed the Bejesus out of Laos, a neutral country during the Second Indo-Chinese War..

But still a wonderful place to live and work..

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I had the pleasure of travelling through Laos in 2005, it truely is an amazing place and it was a shame that I didn't spend that long there. If I ever go back i'd like to visit the Easter (near the Vietnam border), basically the place that got bombed to hell!


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Feb 25, 2008 10:05 |  #74

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I had the pleasure of travelling through Laos in 2005, it truely is an amazing place and it was a shame that I didn't spend that long there. If I ever go back i'd like to visit the Easter (near the Vietnam border), basically the place that got bombed to hell!

Xieng Khuang and Savannakhet..


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Feb 25, 2008 13:37 |  #75

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Xieng Khuang and Savannakhet..

Are those places to visit?


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