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Advice needed about cheaper 300mm f4 IS or 400mm f5.6

 
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Feb 13, 2008 07:35 |  #1

Hey everyone,

Right now I am in the situation that I am about to purchase a 400mm f5.6L USM lens for my surfing, sports and birding shots.

The problem I have is that I have recently been offered a very good condition 300mm f4L IS USM lens for $400 less than what I will pay for the 400mm.

For most of the shots I will sit at 400mm so if I went for the 300mm then I would get the 1.4x TC with the change.

Would I be better suited getting the 400mm 5.6L or paying less for a VGC 300mm 4L IS, and spending the change on a 1.4x TC?

The issue that is bugging me a bit is that with the 300m I can have 300mm f4 and 420mm f5.6. I don't want to skimp out on IQ, which is why I like the 400mm because it is a natural 400mm and offers superb results.

I hope that I have not been too muddled with my thoughts above ;)

Your thoughts on my dilemma would be greatly appreciated because I am looking to make a purchase within a day.

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Feb 13, 2008 07:40 |  #2

I would go for 400 prime if i could. Purely on the hints i have picked up on this site.

I haven't got one but will in the future and this site has helped me choose between 100-400 - 400mm prime or others with TC's

it will drive you nuts just thinking about it. Go new mate. :)


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Feb 13, 2008 07:44 |  #3

thanks for the reply :)

Yeah I was leaning heavily towards the 400mm specifically because my cricket and surfing shots need all the length that they can get and I would prefer to use a raw lens instead of a TCed one ;)

The only reason I considered otherwise is that this deal with the 300mm popped up and it seemed tempting ;)

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Feb 13, 2008 07:48 |  #4

Buy the 300mm, flip it, then buy the 400mm prime =)




  
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Feb 13, 2008 07:55 |  #5

canadianbacon52 wrote in post #4909683 (external link)
Buy the 300mm, flip it, then buy the 400mm prime =)

flip it?

Do you mean a coin? :) sorry if I am missing something :P

can't buy both ;)

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Feb 13, 2008 08:58 |  #6

herbe_nelson wrote in post #4909705 (external link)
flip it?

Do you mean a coin? :) sorry if I am missing something :P

can't buy both ;)

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Flip it means resell it for a profit.

I went through a similar thought process when looking at both the 300 f/4 and the 400 f/5.6. I very easily could have gone either way but settled on the 300 f/4 for the extra stop and the IS. I already owned the 1.4x TC so that may have made the choice a little easier. IS may not help much shooting surfing and cricket because it won't stop movement as I'm sure you know. I believe the IQ is more than satisfactory with the 300 and a 1.4x but I assume the 400 without a TC would be "better".

Here's a thread I started with some sample pictures. I'm sure you can't go wrong with either one.:D

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=433551


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Feb 13, 2008 09:01 as a reply to  @ herbe_nelson's post |  #7

I was in the same boat as you. I finally purchased the 300 f4 IS, and havent looked back. I felt I would get more from the 300 then the 400. So far I havent been dissapointed. And it does handle the tcons very well. Either way you go, you wont be dissappointed..;)


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Feb 13, 2008 09:11 |  #8

thanks for the comments :)

Yeh I have done quite a bit of cricket and surfing so I know most of the necessities. I wasn't actually looking at the IS on the 300mm as the deal breaker :P

Infact the f4 aperture appealed to me more so due to the light gathering ability for use with the other sports that I shoot.

Since I will need max length, the 400mm is still my heavy priced favourite.

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Feb 13, 2008 10:06 |  #9

+1 for the 400L.


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Feb 13, 2008 10:08 |  #10

Another one for 400mm its a great piece of glass!


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Feb 13, 2008 10:11 as a reply to  @ Grimm75's post |  #11

If you put a tc on it wont you lose that extra stop anyway? I would go with the 400 if you are going to use the length consistently. Why not a 100-400?



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Feb 13, 2008 14:31 |  #12

GrendelZ wrote in post #4910441 (external link)
If you put a tc on it wont you lose that extra stop anyway? I would go with the 400 if you are going to use the length consistently. Why not a 100-400?

well firstly the 100-400 is a bit more expensive; and secondly I don't really have the need for a zoom because I will be sitting at 400mm most of the time.

Also, I have a 70-200 2.8L for the lower zoom range which I think will compliment the 400mm nicely :)

I would just prefer the best quality for price at 400mm.

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Feb 13, 2008 15:05 |  #13

yeah, that is an awesome combo. A monopod will increase your keeper ratio with the 400mm. It is also a better lens IQ wise and AF wise than the 300mm. Nice lens but not 400mm class in my experience. If it just had IS ;-)a


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Feb 13, 2008 15:18 |  #14

I'd vote for the 400L if your always going to be around 400mm anyways. And if you need a bit longer you could slap on a 1.4x TC and get to 560mm if you really need more reach.




  
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Feb 13, 2008 17:37 |  #15

I went with the 300mm over the 400mm mainly because of the IS and much shorter minimum focusing distance (4.9' vs. 11.5'). I also already had the 1.4x and 2x TCs.


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