ACR Calibration values

Here's a workup I did between DPP and ACR default parameters from the EOS 40D. Hope you can see why I prefer EJ's Color Profile over the default in both applications. Well worth the $15 in my book.

SO Tsmith, you posted 2 images, but you refer to 3 sets of parameters: DPP default, ACR default and EJ's. I like the image that says ACR, but what parameters does that one use?

cheers,
Phil

gandini wrote in post #4923775
SO Tsmith, you posted 2 images, but you refer to 3 sets of parameters: DPP default, ACR default and EJ's. I like the image that says ACR, but what parameters does that one use?

cheers,
Phil

Sorry for any confusion. What I mean is the EOS 40D RAW file using the cameras Standard Parameter. Which in DPP the software is able to decode the RAW file and set the Style accordingly or the user can apply whichever Color Style he desires.

In ACR it can't read the Color Style (thats my understanding) so the user has to rely on the default ACR RAW settings with in the app or use a preset Color Profile as I've done in the above.

The EJPhoto.com Color Profile cost $15 and is well worth it to me. Works in both ACR & LR.

Tsmith wrote in post #4924006
In ACR it can read the Color Style (thats my understanding)

Toney - I believe you mean can't, right?

Here are a couple of examples why the EJ profile was a disaster for my 400D. In each case I'll show 3 images.
- The first is DPP set to camera defaults (normal style, I think).
- The second is Adobe CS2 camera RAW using my normal defaults (i.e. no adjustment of the calibration tab).
- The third is from CS2 camera RAW using the E.J. Peiker settings.

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gcogger wrote in post #4924427
Here are a couple of examples why the EJ profile was a disaster for my 400D. In each case I'll show 3 images.
- The first is DPP set to camera defaults (normal style, I think).
- The second is Adobe CS2 camera RAW using my normal defaults (i.e. no adjustment of the calibration tab).
- The third is from CS2 camera RAW using the E.J. Peiker settings.

Could this possibly be the result of body to body variations?

Glenn NK wrote in post #4924920
Could this possibly be the result of body to body variations?

I'd say that's quite likely... some people with same body as mine see little to no red - orange shift in ACR, others see it as bad as mine or worse... just an example why buying those profiles may be a hit or miss affair.

Good thread, hope to see more settings. I hesitate to post my own, because I'm not completely happy with them myself.

rfreschner wrote in post #4924095
Toney - I believe you mean can't, right?

Whacks myself in the head, can't is correct! _

David did you contact EJ to see if he had an explanation or solution? Both the Profiles for my 30D and 40D work great.

I'm sorry but this whole post has me confused.

Can I assume (ass-u-me) that you are not using a spyder type monitor calibration gizmo? I've never done any of the things that you'll are refering to.

No the software Color Profile for the camera is a parameter for having a good starting point for working with your RAW files. Kinda the way you can assign different Color Styles if using JPEG format. Totally different than Monitor Calibration, which you need first.

Hmmm, so THAT'S why I was underwhelmed by the response to my earlier THREAD. Seems everyone bought, borrowed or stole their presets, rather than calibrating it themselves. I too have borrowed the one from the huelight.com site (when it was available). It was a good starting point but still wasn't close enough. I decided I'll just do it myself. I bought a colourchecker and will be running a script soon enough...well, once I get a chance to shoot it outside in perfect conditions....though I admit just buying the presets sound better. Sadly I keep remembering that buying presets won't work because the whole idea is to calibrate it for YOUR camera, not a mean average of other sampled cameras.
I'll post my 30D presets.

FYI - Milker of huelight.com will post his 40D presets when he makes them available. He may be looking for volunteers to donate RAW files for him to use….which would speed up the process.

The folks over at NAPP http://www.photoshopus​er.com/ told me to use this http://www.fors.net/ch​romoholics/, but also told me it wasn't necessary unless I was using multiple cameras. FWIW

chauncey wrote in post #4925653
The folks over at NAPP http://www.photoshopus​er.com/ told me to use this http://www.fors.net/ch​romoholics/, but also told me it wasn't necessary unless I was using multiple cameras. FWIW

Surprising they said ONLY if multiple cameras. If using different models of camera, it will use different internal ACR profiles anyway. Plus, I think the idea of the Fors script is to set it as the default for that camera (which ACR/LR can do so based on camera's serial#)... if its necesscary to calibrate at all, it shouldn't matter if you're shooting with one camera, or more. (Perhaps they come from the angle that ACR does well for their colors, and they want shots from camera to match one another (such as at weddings, etc. when shooting with multiple bodies.))

Again, however, I think Fors script is only for CS2/3 owners... haven't heard anything different about that.