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Feb 17, 2008 11:32 |  #1

Photographed a boys playoff game lastnight and I took some pictures of the setup so others might have an idea of how someone might illuminate a small gym. If you see something that I might be able to improve on, please let me know, I am always looking for ways to get better.

Gym was quite small and fairly old. The fans entered and exited the gym from the opposite end of the court than I have shown here. I typically try and photograph from the end of the court that has the least amount of fan traffic.

For this gym, the end I setup on had some limitations since the stands went up against the wall which prevented using a lightstand. The only thing available to attach the strobes were the side baskets. There was a basket similar to the one shown below on the opposite side of the court. I was able to attach the strobes to the rims using an avenger super clamp and used a Vegabond II (external link) to power the light. I have used the vegabonds for several games now and they are great for this application. The small size of the vegabonds (about the size of a 12 pack) make them easy to transport and setup. The vegabonds were simply sitting on the stands up against the wall. I had one fan sitting right next to the vegabond with his leg really up against the unit. Their small size makes them ideal for this scenario.

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#2 Closeup of the strobe attached to the side basket. Strobes used were AB800s from alien bee (external link). They are the deep space black units which I feel help illuminate the gym :). 11" reflectors (external link)were attached to the strobes. I used the Avenger super clamp (external link) to attach the strobes to the baskets
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#3 This image shows how low the ceiling was for this gym (nice white ceiling). I was concerned it would have been too low but it turned out fine. I was using 11" relfectors (the 7" reflectors probably would have given me a better spread).

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#4 Few game shots. Nothing spectacular.

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#7 My favorite picture from the evening. The cheerleaders in the background I think really add to this image.

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Feb 17, 2008 12:56 |  #2

man I love gyms like that! lol Great way to use something to your advantage with those basketball rims on the wall.

I am suprised you had to use an iso of 800 though with that low of a ceiling.

Also i thought the Mark III had a synch speed of 320? but I see your using 250.


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Feb 17, 2008 13:07 |  #3

Matt, thanks for sharing your setup. Were you able to setup your lights without the need of a ladder? I'v run across a similar gym where youth basketball is played and there is nothing but a couple of pieces of conduit to clamp on to (such as on your back wall). But I would need a ladder to be able to reach the area where the clamp would need to be installed. Bummer! And there is no way to set up light stands. They wouldn't stay standing for 10 minutes in that gym!!!

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Feb 17, 2008 13:47 |  #4

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Also i thought the Mark III had a synch speed of 320? but I see your using 250.

1/320 is with an on camera 580EX II speedlight. As far as I have been able to determine anything off camera still requires 1/250. If anyone knows a way to get 1/320 with off camera lights I would love to know how to do it.


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Feb 17, 2008 13:49 |  #5

BTW, Matt nice shots and helpful post. Keep up the good work.


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Feb 17, 2008 14:17 |  #6

love to see the difference between with and without the strobes in play


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Feb 17, 2008 14:20 |  #7

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1/320 is with an on camera 580EX II speedlight. As far as I have been able to determine anything off camera still requires 1/250. If anyone knows a way to get 1/320 with off camera lights I would love to know how to do it.

Kevin - I believe you are correct. The slightly faster sync speed is only available with on camera flash.

Matt - Interesting set-up. Nice shots. Might I suggest using zip ties or safety cables to secure the strobe and clamp. It is very important, especially where your lights are so readily accessible to provide a secondary method of securing the equipment to the permanent fixtures. Here's how I secured my AB's this past Friday.


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Feb 17, 2008 14:22 as a reply to  @ Big K's post |  #8

Thank you for the set up pics.

The 1D Mark III sync speed is 1/300 for the Canon on camera flash.

Do you gentlemen find there are any gyms where you prefer the 7" over the 11" reflectors?


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Feb 17, 2008 15:45 |  #9

Dennis,

I just started doing that as well with the zip ties. Esp when I put my stand near the stands. I will just zip the stand to the rails on the stands to keep it secure.

The only time I use the 7 inch reflectors is when I can't bounce at all. There were 2 gyms that I used those at and that was because one had a black ceiling and one the ceiling was extremely high and it slopped so it was pointless to bounce.


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Feb 17, 2008 22:33 |  #10

I Like your setup and shots, i go to cox and play on the basketball team. Were there any dunks, they dunked on us like 5 times.


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Feb 17, 2008 23:16 |  #11

Thank you for the great set-up photos Matt. Two questions, the strobes are both on the same end of the court, correct? Using Pocketwizards to trigger?


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Feb 18, 2008 07:25 |  #12

ferry101 wrote in post #4938673 (external link)
I Like your setup and shots, i go to cox and play on the basketball team. Were there any dunks, they dunked on us like 5 times.

I think there may have been one dunk. Deap Creek dunks a bunch, Corey Law can really jump. Good luck in the tournament.

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Might I suggest using zip ties or safety cables to secure the strobe and clamp. It is very important, especially where your lights are so readily accessible to provide a secondary method of securing the equipment to the permanent fixtures.

Thanks Dennis. Sounds like a trip to Lowes is needed for some cable.

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Two questions, the strobes are both on the same end of the court, correct? Using Pocketwizards to trigger?

Yes the strobes are on the same end of the court. I always try to place myself between the strobes and the court. Instead of Pocketwizards, I am using Elinchrom skyports.

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Do you gentlemen find there are any gyms where you prefer the 7" over the 11" reflectors?

I am yet to use the 7" relfectors. I find myself always using the 11".

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Were you able to setup your lights without the need of a ladder?

No ladder was needed. The stands provided ample height to attach the strobes.


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Feb 18, 2008 08:31 |  #13

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Instead of Pocketwizards, I am using Elinchrom skyports.

How much experience do you have with the skyports and do you recommend them as a lower cost alternative to PWs?


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Feb 18, 2008 09:24 as a reply to  @ Zivnuska's post |  #14

Dennis,

What clamp are you using to mount your AB's?


  
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Feb 18, 2008 09:57 |  #15

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How much experience do you have with the skyports and do you recommend them as a lower cost alternative to PWs?

I know you didn't ask me but I have used the Skyports around 4 times now and I think they are great! No misfires, and they are small which is really nice.

They come with everything you need which is also nice.

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