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May 10, 2010 18:30 |  #4891

BEAUTIFUL shot!

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May 10, 2010 18:33 |  #4892

airbutchie I agree with cathy51 a beautiful portrait .


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May 11, 2010 20:22 |  #4893

I have a quick Q about my 1D MK II.
What ISO speed do you guys get up to until you start to experience noise? I started noticing it at 400 and 500, and was kind of sad that that's the highest I could put my ISO to until I noticed the noise. Noise reduction is off.

Thanks guys.


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May 11, 2010 20:30 |  #4894

timbar21 wrote in post #10164387 (external link)
I have a quick Q about my 1D MK II.
What ISO speed do you guys get up to until you start to experience noise? I started noticing it at 400 and 500, and was kind of sad that that's the highest I could put my ISO to until I noticed the noise. Noise reduction is off.

Thanks guys.

It depends on the exposure. If exposed well, you will have great results at much higher ISO. Someone here (in this thread) has posted a photo of a Santa Claus. I can't recall if it was ISO1600 or 3200, but every time I hear or read about "ISO" and "noise" I picture that shot and how incredible it is for the light and ISO setting.


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May 11, 2010 20:32 |  #4895

I have a quick Q about my 1D MK II.
What ISO speed do you guys get up to until you start to experience noise? I started noticing it at 400 and 500, and was kind of sad that that's the highest I could put my ISO to until I noticed the noise. Noise reduction is off.

Thanks guys.

I can show you noise in some of my shots at ISO100. I have other shots at ISO1600 that are perfectly usable. Undesirable noise is mostly caused by underexposure. Make sure you do everything you can to get your exposure right, and use whatever ISO you have to get the shot.


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May 11, 2010 21:10 |  #4896

BV1DMKIIn wrote in post #10164426 (external link)
It depends on the exposure. If exposed well, you will have great results at much higher ISO. Someone here (in this thread) has posted a photo of a Santa Claus. I can't recall if it was ISO1600 or 3200, but every time I hear or read about "ISO" and "noise" I picture that shot and how incredible it is for the light and ISO setting.

Here's the photo I was talking about. It was ISO3200. It is post #2494 in this thread.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=9105882&post​count=2494 by user tfd888

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tfd888 wrote in post #9107892 (external link)
Very light noise reduction in DPP, other then that nope.

Mine hasn't. It has times where it'll struggle to focus on low contrast subjects/objects and in very dim light but in great light it's pretty darn good.

The Santa shot actually was taken with the Canon 50mm f/1.8.


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May 11, 2010 21:14 as a reply to  @ george m w's post |  #4897

I love the "speed" of the 1D2N when trying to capture action.

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May 11, 2010 22:14 |  #4898

timbar21 wrote in post #10164387 (external link)
I have a quick Q about my 1D MK II.
What ISO speed do you guys get up to until you start to experience noise? I started noticing it at 400 and 500, and was kind of sad that that's the highest I could put my ISO to until I noticed the noise. Noise reduction is off.

Thanks guys.

Are you pixel peeping ;) :p Pixel peeping is a no no :lol: unless you are printing enormous prints and even then.

I can make my 1D2 show noise at ISO 100 if I underexpose and push in post. The 1D2's ISO performance is very sensitive to exposure but it also takes noise reduction beautifully compared to many bodies when you use Neat Image or Noise Ninja.


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May 11, 2010 22:21 |  #4899

BV1DMKIIn wrote in post #10164606 (external link)
Here's the photo I was talking about. It was ISO3200. It is post #2494 in this thread.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=9105882&post​count=2494 by user tfd888

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I remember that one! :p that place was dark and I didn't have a flash then :lol:.

I'll have to take that one and run it through Neat Image and see how it comes out and share the results. DPP's luminance noise reduction isn't the greatest when you start using it beyond 3/20 (but is handy in a pinch) IMO. Loses and softens details in an odd way that makes the pics look splotchy.


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May 12, 2010 04:38 |  #4900

I use the ISO I need for the aperture and shutter speed I want. There's no point in getting blurry pictures for the sake of some noise.

I too find the 1D Mark II pictures take noise reduction very well and in fact the noise is very low.

Posted these in another thread recently:
A couple of recent morning shots with a TC necessitating 1600 ISO:

http://www.flickr.com/​photos/hpulley/4591474​079/ (external link)

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Taken on a rainy day, in the rain, something you can do with confidence (with a weather sealed lens with a filter on) with the 1D:

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3200 ISO in dreadful indoor soccer lighting with a slow lens for reach (1/160th, f/5.6). Shouldn't have really been shooting indoors at f/5.6, usually I employ f/2.0 or f/2.8 lenses for it but I was trying the only long lens I have. I should probably work on this one a bit more to smooth out the black referee outfit:

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May 12, 2010 07:41 |  #4901

timbar21 wrote in post #10164387 (external link)
I have a quick Q about my 1D MK II.
What ISO speed do you guys get up to until you start to experience noise? I started noticing it at 400 and 500, and was kind of sad that that's the highest I could put my ISO to until I noticed the noise. Noise reduction is off.

Thanks guys.

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I can show you noise in some of my shots at ISO100. I have other shots at ISO1600 that are perfectly usable. Undesirable noise is mostly caused by underexposure. Make sure you do everything you can to get your exposure right, and use whatever ISO you have to get the shot.

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This is ISO 1600, cleaned up a little in Imagenomic Noiseware Pro. This was used on the cover of a major horse horse publication. A guy could make an argument I overexposed it a little. but better that than under;)

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May 12, 2010 11:37 |  #4902

IMO - 1250 with noise ninja is noiseless. 1600 with Noise ninja looks clean at A4. 3200 is usuable to 10x8 with Noise ninja.

In all honesty I find 1600 noiseless when I resize to 2600 anyway!


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May 12, 2010 12:29 |  #4903

Ron, I've seen that pix above before ! Great shot. I too shoot a lot of indoor horse events....and usually, we just have to shoot at ASA1600....really no choice.
Again, I love that shot....a good cutting horse in action is a thing of beauty. I'm gonna have to shoot some of that action sometime. We show Arabians, so much of the action our girls are involved in is less dramatic than rodeo type stuff.
I'm going way off topic here, but back to the original poster, just consider what you have to do to get the shot, and then deal with it whatever way you have to.


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May 12, 2010 12:54 |  #4904

Thanks, George. Cutters are probably the hardest indoor horse event to shoot there is. You, as you know, have to deal with light and try and time the turn around. But it remains one of my favorite things to shoot. And contrary to what I have heard other photographers say about western riders, cutters buy prints;)

BTW, George. You are dating us when you call it ASA (instead of ISO)!!!;)


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May 12, 2010 15:05 |  #4905

BTW, George. You are dating us when you call it ASA (instead of ISO)!!!

....yeah....old habits die hard, brother !


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