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Jun 09, 2010 00:51 |  #5296

rpearce12 wrote in post #10328697 (external link)
If I have to shoot at 3200, which I hate doing bc of the noise, I expose properly at ISO 1600 in Manual and then bump the ISO to 3200 and then pull it back in post. This way, I'm guaranteed a somewhat overexposed image, but nowhere near enough to ruin it.

Has anyone else tried this?

You may be shooting ISO 3200 but you aren't getting the advantage of a higher shutter speed from using that method unless you bump up your shutter speed.


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Jun 09, 2010 04:16 |  #5297

I loves my 1D mark II !!!

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Jun 09, 2010 04:27 |  #5298

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I loves my 1D mark II !!!

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That's an extremely cool shot!


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Jun 09, 2010 06:01 as a reply to  @ tfd888's post |  #5299

Well as an update to my earlier issue, I gave Canon a call and they said I should send the body in ASAP through Mack if I want to use the Mack warranty and that if they don't fix it, to send it in to Canon Irvine.

It'll be starting it's journey tomorrow so here's a shot of it before it departs.

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It's going to be hard to live without my baby at my side :cry:

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Jun 09, 2010 06:37 |  #5300

17-40 f/4, 24-70 f/2.8 or 24-105 f/4, I went into the store with that question and came out with the 24-70 f/2.8 and I couldn't be happier. The extra stop is great for action and depth of field.

3200 definitely you need to expose properly to avoid bad noise that you can't process out. Shooting +1EC at 3200 is really the same as shooting 1600 at 0EC so there isn't much point in doing that but 1/3 or 2/3 makes some sense. Overall you need to make sure that 1600 and 3200 are well exposed to get clean shots. For shooting action you need the shutter speed though with some bad lighting you can't use a high enough speed anyways as the lights flicker and you get odd colors and uneven lighting but if you can, get the shutter speed right and then use aperture and ISO to get the right exposure which may require an f/2 or faster lens.

Cool shot Mark! Great timing.

tfd888, sorry you'll be without it for a while. I sent mine in for a week earlier and it was tough to be without but at least we have xxD backups!


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Jun 09, 2010 09:16 |  #5301

george m w wrote in post #10326883 (external link)
.....yeah Tim....but when 'ya have to...'ya have to:

https://photography-on-the.net …ead.php?t=45815​0&page=341

....scroll down to post 5103....ISO3200

Belatedly, I will echoe what George said. 1st one here is at 1600, next one was at 3200. It then even got too dark for that and I had to go to flash as you see with the last two:

https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=8916530&p​ostcount=1

But, ya' gotta do what ya gotta do. The first one was used in a major horse publication.


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Jun 09, 2010 09:40 |  #5302

10megapixel wrote in post #10327056 (external link)
This is true...I have sold plenty of ISO 3200 images shot with the 30/40D with no complaints from the customers. My concern with the 1D2 at high ISO started this year with basketball, had a tough time processing the pics to my satisfaction.

Boy, I hear ya there! It took some getting used to, coming from a 50D, shooting night football and then basketball with my 1D2!

One thing that really helped me, and maybe you are doing it, is the type of sharpening you use. If you use just plain old USM, it will kill your images. Using some type of selective sharpening, where you can mask out what you do not want sharpened, makes a huge difference too!


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Jun 09, 2010 09:43 |  #5303

tfd888 wrote in post #10329822 (external link)
Well as an update to my earlier issue, I gave Canon a call and they said I should send the body in ASAP through Mack if I want to use the Mack warranty and that if they don't fix it, to send it in to Canon Irvine.

It'll be starting it's journey tomorrow so here's a shot of it before it departs.


It's going to be hard to live without my baby at my side :cry:

I'm with you! I just had to send mine back in to Canon. I hate when it's gone; but I know it will come back all good to go!


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Jun 09, 2010 14:19 |  #5304

I`ve just got a 2nd hand 1D MKII to go along with my 1Ds, looks good, not had a chance to road test yet.


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Jun 09, 2010 15:33 |  #5305

once again, i love this site !!! learned something new again. I've never tried bumping the exposure up that high, so ill have to try that soon.


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Jun 09, 2010 16:05 |  #5306

Here's the right thread for my question, I'm sure. I aquired a 1D Mk II a few weeks ago and have skimmed the manual. So much to learn, so little time. The pix I have shot with the camera have been, for the most part, at least as good or better than my 40D. That's what I wanted.

One thing I have not been able to figure out, though (well, to be fair, there are many things, but this should be an easy one for the pros in this thread), is that the camera "knows" the previous owner, the pictures seem to know his name. I can change this in LightRoom, but would rather the camera just know its new owner. How do I change this, and where in the manual is this reference? I haven't found it.

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Jun 09, 2010 16:10 |  #5307

hpulley wrote in post #10329908 (external link)
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3200 definitely you need to expose properly to avoid bad noise that you can't process out. Shooting +1EC at 3200 is really the same as shooting 1600 at 0EC so there isn't much point in doing that but 1/3 or 2/3 makes some sense. Overall you need to make sure that 1600 and 3200 are well exposed to get clean shots. ......
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Shooting ISO 3200 with + 1/3 EC or 2/3 EC and pulling back means you are realistically shooting ISO 2500 or the likes and not really at ISO 3200 :p

hpulley wrote in post #10329908 (external link)
tfd888, sorry you'll be without it for a while. I sent mine in for a week earlier and it was tough to be without but at least we have xxD backups!

That we do :D So glad I made the choice to pickup a backup body. It's keeping me sane while the 1D2 is gone :lol:

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I'm with you! I just had to send mine back in to Canon. I hate when it's gone; but I know it will come back all good to go!

Best of luck for it's trip.


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Jun 09, 2010 16:16 |  #5308

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One thing I have not been able to figure out, though (well, to be fair, there are many things, but this should be an easy one for the pros in this thread), is that the camera "knows" the previous owner, the pictures seem to know his name. I can change this in LightRoom, but would rather the camera just know its new owner. How do I change this, and where in the manual is this reference? I haven't found it.

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I don't know that it is in the manual any where. It probably is. But you need to connect your computer via Firewire (not USB). Then fire up (bad pun) the utility disk.

You can then change it.


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Jun 09, 2010 16:20 |  #5309

tfd888 wrote in post #10333179 (external link)
Shooting ISO 3200 with + 1/3 EC or 2/3 EC and pulling back means you are realistically shooting ISO 2500 or the likes and not really at ISO 3200 :p

True but this is always the case. And since the 1D Mark II doesn't give you anything between 1600 and 3200 ISO, this trick lets you do the same thing the camera does with 640, 1000, 1250, etc. a fake ISO in between which may be the best you can do though with the pushing or pulling the noise can actually be worse than using the 'native' ISO settings if you use in-camera noise reduction. +1/3 should give you 2000, +2/3 2500 I guess. You can of course go over 3200 using this method too.

There is no such thing as a free lunch, the sensor is the sensor, there is nothing magical about the ISOs which make them noisier or cleaner than other ISO ratings. Pushing and pulling ends up giving you the same noise as if you'd shot at the same ISO without EC... As I said, underexposing ISO 1600 by one stop and pushing it back 1 stop in post gives you exactly the same as 3200 ISO aside from minor differences in how the camera's DIGIC II chip and your post processing software do things. 3200 overexposed 1 stop then pulled back gives you the same as 1600... no magic, just pushing numbers around. The sensor is there, light falls on it, there is no way to make more light out of what hits it.


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Jun 09, 2010 16:20 |  #5310

matonanjin wrote in post #10333206 (external link)
I don't know that it is in the manual any where. It probably is. But you need to connect your computer via Firewire (not USB). Then fire up (bad pun) the utility disk.

You can then change it.

Yeah, you need to run EOS Utility over Firewire with a 32-bit OS with the drivers to make it connect. Then you can set the owner's name, personal functions, etc.


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