educate me... flash brackets.

Titus213 wrote in post #5069305
Using a camera rotating bracket simplifies bounced flash for me. Since the flash doesn't move I can set it to bounce in a given area and not have to change until my environment changes and it works in portrait or landscape mode. A flash attached to the camera or on a flash rotating bracket has to be re-adjusted for bounce when going between portrait and landscape.

I have the stroboframe 350 flip flash and it doesn't have to be re-adjusted..

Check out the Really Right Stuff for great flash bracket. They have a wedding photography bracket ($150.00) that folds down to almost nothing (< 1" thick)so you can carry it in your bag,.

Magic_Puzzle wrote in post #5150921
Check out the Really Right Stuff for great flash bracket. They have a wedding photography bracket ($150.00) that folds down to almost nothing (< 1" thick)so you can carry it in your bag,.

I you look closely, the bracket appears to put the flash over the lens when in Landscape mode, but it seems to put the flash upside down if you rotate the camera CCW into Portrait mode?! The web site gives far too little illustrative information to jump to a conclusion about how it might work (poorly?) in Portrait orientation.

Wilt, the RRS WPF-1 flash bracket works just like the Stroboframe Pro-T and Press-T. It's a flash rotator, just like the Newton flash rotator brackets which also puts the flash upside down if the camera is rotated CCW into the Portrait mode. And those vertical grips controls on the 1D camera and the battery grips on the non-1D cameras? Well, they're useless, too, when the camera is rotated CCW into the Portrait mode.

The flash rotator Newton Bracket was recommended to me because I wish to use it with a heavy 70-200mm f2.8L IS lens... It is easier to rotate the flash (580EXII), than the camera with such a heavy lens...

And the Newton Flash Bracket works like a charm.

EDIT: The Newton Di100FR2 Bracket also, allows the Canon battery pack to be attached to it's base...

PacAce wrote in post #5151510
It's a flash rotator, just like the Newton flash rotator brackets which also puts the flash upside down if the camera is rotated CCW into the Portrait mode. .

Not correct...the Newton flash rotator keeps the flash upright and above the axis of the lens regardless of Portrait or Landscape. No flash in the Canon cord, but the position of the cord proves the upright position of flash...

Wilt wrote in post #5151810
Not correct...the Newton flash rotator keeps the flash upright and above the axis of the lens regardless of Portrait or Landscape. No flash in the Canon cord, but the position of the cord proves the upright position of flash...

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Wilt, when you said that the bracket puts the flash upside-down when the camera is rotated CCW, didn't you mean that the flash ends up underneath the camera instead of above it? If not, then I misunderstood your post. Sorry.

But in that case, I beg to differ when you say that the flash gets positioned upside down on the RSS WPF-1. It doesn't, just like it doesn't on the Pro-T and a few other flash rotator brackets. It gets positioned sideways which places the flash head in the same orientation as the camera image sensor. When the Newton flash rotator bracket is set in the portrait orientation, the flash head is still oriented horizontally whereas the image sensor is oriented vertically. Is this good or bad? That depends on the usage.

PacAce wrote in post #5153677
Wilt, when you said that the bracket puts the flash upside-down when the camera is rotated CCW, didn't you mean that the flash ends up underneath the camera instead of above it? If not, then I misunderstood your post. Sorry.

But in that case, I beg to differ when you say that the flash gets positioned upside down on the RSS WPF-1. It doesn't, just like it doesn't on the Pro-T and a few other flash rotator brackets. It gets positioned sideways which places the flash head in the same orientation as the camera image sensor. When the Newton flash rotator bracket is set in the portrait orientation, the flash head is still oriented horizontally whereas the image sensor is oriented vertically. Is this good or bad? That depends on the usage.

Leo, looking at the RRS photo,

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Wilt wrote in post #5153711
Leo, looking at the RRS photo,

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if you rotate the camera CCW to put the grip on top (the same orientation of the used the BF-E2) the horizontal cross piece is vertical, so then you unfold the part of the bracket and the flash is on the underside of the new cross piece.

If you rotate the camera CW, it puts the grip on the bottom and the BD-E2 is useless.

I have a response for this thread (I think) but I need to know what a BF-E2 and a BD-E2 is first.

I have the Newton camera rotator bracket and really like it. I got the one with a tripod attachment, and I can attach the bracket to a tripod and orient the camera between landscape and portrait modes while keeping the flash in the same position at the top of the bracket. I often use the Lumiquest Promax system on the flash head to give me some bounce and other lighting options, but I find it easier to rotate the camera as I normally would, between landscape and portrait orientations, and the flash just stays where it should.

PacAce wrote in post #5153781
I have a response for this thread (I think) but I need to know what a BF-E2 and a BD-E2 is first.

Oops, meant to type 'BG-E2'

Wilt wrote in post #5153711
Leo, looking at the RRS photo,

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if you rotate the camera CCW to put the grip on top (the same orientation of the used the BF-E2) the horizontal cross piece is vertical, so then you unfold the part of the bracket and the flash is on the underside of the new cross piece.

Yes, that's is true, but it still doesn't place the flash upside-down? It's oriented sideways, like I said before, just like the Pro-T.

Wilt wrote in post #5153711
If you rotate the camera CW, it puts the grip on the bottom and the BD-E2 is useless.

Not sure what this last sentense has to do with the price of rice in China.

PacAce wrote in post #5154083
Yes, that's is true, but it still doesn't place the flash upside-down? It's oriented sideways, like I said before, just like the Pro-T.

I guess it really depends upon something that is not illustrated nor explained at all on the website...when you unfold the bracket for the Portrait orientation, does that last piece form a straight line with the original cross piece (making a quite tall bracket with sideways flash) or does it form an angle to the original cross piece (making the flash upside down or at a kilter)??

That's why my critical comment about the lack of information on the products! In an older thread, I asked someone (who owned one?) to provide information about the bracket but there was not a response.

I'm going to order the Custom Bracket in a few weeks just for weddings. It's a left hand grip, and that's what I need.

SuzyView wrote in post #5154137
I'm going to order the Custom Bracket in a few weeks just for weddings. It's a left hand grip, and that's what I need.

Suzy,
Have you considered the Newton? You hold the camera almost like it was without the flash bracket (camera and lens cradled in left hand, right hand on grip). The weight of the Newton is so little (flash rotator version 8 oz.) that you don't need a left grip the same extent as a bracket which weighs 12-16 oz more than the Newton.