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Mar 07, 2008 19:29 |  #1

Hi All,

I am very new to night photography, so I thought I might share these couple of pics for a bit of C&C.

First couple of pics are from the top of the cliffs looking at the beautiful Brisbane City. I am having trouble getting these types of shots in proper focus. Can anyone offer some good advice? Some are coming up great and others not. I know I need a Remote switch and its next on my list of things to purchase.

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After venturing down to the bottom of the cliffs, we met a couple of rock climbers. Getting them to stand still was a challenge. This shot was an attempt at showing their 'task ahead'. Note to self - NEED WIDER LENS.

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Any advice on making these sharper? That seems to be my challenge at the moment. They look OK zoomed out, but they really show the faults at 100% crop.

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Mar 07, 2008 19:46 |  #2

Hi Scott. Not a bad effort, but (there's always a but eh?) I think you'd get a much better result from there if you tried it during the Blue Hour (not really an hour - more like 15 to 20 mins). It's the time of day just after sunset when the sky is getting dark but hasn't gone black and thus a long exposure will render it a deep blue.

By shooting later at night, you lose separation of sky and buildings.

The top one, presuming you didn't move or bump the camera is probably soft due to diffraction. Notice how much sharper the f/5.6 shot is compared to the f/18 shot. In general, try to stay below f/11 (or f/8) for sharper shots. There's a bit on diffraction on this page (scroll down to it) - http://www.cambridgein​colour.com …al-camera-sensor-size.htm (external link)


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Mar 07, 2008 19:54 |  #3

Scott H wrote in post #5069690 (external link)
Hi All,

I am very new to night photography, so I thought I might share these couple of pics for a bit of C&C.

First couple of pics are from the top of the cliffs looking at the beautiful Brisbane City. I am having trouble getting these types of shots in proper focus. Can anyone offer some good advice? Some are coming up great and others not. I know I need a Remote switch and its next on my list of things to purchase.


Canon 40D, EF-S 17-85mm, IS Off, 89sec, F18, ISO 100.


Canon 40D, EF-S 17-85mm, IS Off, 15sec, F5.6, ISO 100

After venturing down to the bottom of the cliffs, we met a couple of rock climbers. Getting them to stand still was a challenge. This shot was an attempt at showing their 'task ahead'. Note to self - NEED WIDER LENS.


Canon 40D, EF-S 17-85mm, 30sec, F20, ISO 100


Canon 40D, EF-S 17-85mm, 30sec, F20, ISO 100

Any advice on making these sharper? That seems to be my challenge at the moment. They look OK zoomed out, but they really show the faults at 100% crop.

Cheers,

-Scott

Hi Scott, nice pics but I also agree with Dave from first hand experience.

The first time I've ever encountered the "blue hour" was when out with this group during a 2 night Southbank run.

The difference in quality was huge from those I had taken before well after sunset.

However, use a tripod, get a remote shutter release (or use time exposure to minimise camera shake), try experimenting with mirror lock-up and set your f-stop to around 8-11

BrisVegas by night is a great thing to capture so keep at it - just when you think you have seen it all you manage to snag something else which makes all the hard work seem so worth it. :)


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Mar 07, 2008 20:01 |  #4

Trumples wrote in post #5069837 (external link)
Hi Scott, nice pics but I also agree with Dave from first hand experience.

The first time I've ever encountered the "blue hour" was when out with this group during a 2 night Southbank run.

The difference in quality was huge from those I had taken before well after sunset.

However, use a tripod, get a remote shutter release (or use time exposure to minimise camera shake), try experimenting with mirror lock-up and set your f-stop to around 8-11

BrisVegas by night is a great thing to capture so keep at it - just when you think you have seen it all you manage to snag something else which makes all the hard work seem so worth it. :)

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Mar 07, 2008 21:51 |  #5

I echo all the above comments. Great first attempt...

I loooove night shots. i find the blue hour (you can even wiki for it) best because you get building detail on top of lights...

like this http://stuff.planetsla​ckers.com …070910_cityscap​e-0006.jpg (external link) (just linked as it's only an example)

also like this one which is slightly before blue hour (no deep blue sky) http://stuff.planetsla​ckers.com …1_citykangaroop​t-0001.jpg (external link)

But as mentioned above, keep at it... I still go out of my way to get the 'perfect' capture... it's all learning eh? :D

I find f/10 f/11 is usually enough, and anything past 15 seconds means it's probably a wee bit dark :)

Look forward to more :)


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Mar 08, 2008 01:56 |  #6

Thanks for all the replies guys, will definately have another go at it tomorrow or something. I think the reason I have been using the really tight apetures was to achieve the 'points' around the light.

And probably my lens isnt quite up to the task. Anyway, will give it another go and show you my results.

Definately need a remote button as I got sick of holding down the button with my finger to get a 2min+ exposure. Kind of thinking of a Macgyver style rig to hold the button down!

Cheers guys,

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Mar 08, 2008 05:00 |  #7

This was my attempt from the top of the cliffs a few weeks back...

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Mar 08, 2008 22:01 as a reply to  @ Amfamora's post |  #8

Nice shot Amfamora, did you stitch that together or was it a top & bottom crop?

I am thinking about buying a wider lens so that I can get some nice cityscapes.

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Mar 09, 2008 00:24 |  #9

Just a Top and Bottom Crop :)


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Mar 09, 2008 18:42 as a reply to  @ Amfamora's post |  #10

Nice set OP. The last two are really cool.


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