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Talk me in or out of the 550EX!

 
DustyDesert
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Oct 28, 2004 09:38 |  #1

My favorite photo store told me the 550EX would be best for my 10D. I'm going to be shooting a wedding reception in a gym setting with high ceilings and florescent lighting. I will be shooting some available light B&W with higher ISO's, but also want to use lower ISO's and a flash. I've read negative things about TTL and wonder if for the price I would be better off with something else. The other options I'm considering are the Nikon SB800 or the Sigma 500DG Super. I read at http://shootsmarter.co​m/infocenter/wc031.htm (external link) that the Nikon flash on a 10D was much better than the 550EX, but I'm a bit nervous about the compatibility and purchasing the Nikon flash based on one review.

I plan on getting the Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer, too. Is a flash bracket also going to be a must have? I "might" be doing more weddings, so I am willing to get the best I can afford now which would be in the $600 range or less.




  
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Oct 28, 2004 09:47 |  #2

Your camera's main flash mode is ETTL, not TTL, so Canon Speedlites with -EX are the best way to go. That leaves you the 580EX, 550EX, or 420EX. It would be possible to get a Nikon flash to work, but not ETTL mode.

For wedding receptions, the -EX flashes work fine. Put one on a flash bracket with the off camera shoe cord 2, and away you go. Orient the flash unit on the bracket so that it is directly above the lens whether you are shooting with it held horizontally or vertically.

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Oct 28, 2004 09:50 |  #3

On a similiar note, how much faster is the 550EX over the 420EX when it comes to recyling?
I used a 420EX last weekend at a wedding and the flash recycle times were pretty long, even with new batteries.
Is the 550 Quicker?

Or is there some other way I can speed up the recycle times?



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Oct 28, 2004 09:50 |  #4

You have heard the old axiom " bracket, bracket, bracket." Well its true for flash photography as well as exposure. I've shot a few weddings and the bracket makes all the difference. Getting the flash away from camera makes a lot of sense. You can purchase one for $30-$50 I think.

As far as the 550, I love mine. I would consider the 580 also. It's the new ettl II and makes more sense for the future. I don't know the price difference but I would definitely compare the two.

Hope this helps. Good Luck.


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Oct 28, 2004 09:53 |  #5

Can someone post the name or B&H link for a reasonably priced flash bracket? I know the flash cord is around $50, but I too need a recommendation on a basic flash bracket.

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Oct 28, 2004 09:56 |  #6

Toogy wrote:
On a similiar note, how much faster is the 550EX over the 420EX when it comes to recyling?
I used a 420EX last weekend at a wedding and the flash recycle times were pretty long, even with new batteries.
Is the 550 Quicker?

Or is there some other way I can speed up the recycle times?

I find them to be roughly the same recycle speed. On some flash units, you can plug in an external battery pack, and that will speed up the recycle a lot. 550EX has that, and 420EX does not.

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Oct 28, 2004 09:57 |  #7

There are three things to consider when making your choice - compatibility, recycle time, price.

The Sigma cannot use an external battery pack so you are held to the default recycle time. But it is economical compared to the Canon 550ex.

The 550ex will do everything that the combination of your camera to flash is capable of doing and it can be powered by external pack for faster recycling time - but it is more expensive.

The 580ex is brand new and just came out this week so if you get one you will have to see if it functions properly before you use it for the event.
It is also the most expensive option at around $479 USD

If you are doing this kind of event only once and are not a regular wedding photographer, I'd recommend the Sigma. If you are doing lots of weddings you will want to think about the 550ex which is less expensive than the 580ex and is a good match for the 10D. If you are thinking of upgrading to the 20D, go for the 580ex. It will give you the most bang for the buck with the 20D.




  
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Oct 28, 2004 10:00 |  #8

The 580EX supposedly recycles faster than than 550EX, but I only have the 550. I use Canon's CP-E2 with it for faster recycling.

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Oct 28, 2004 10:02 |  #9
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ScottH wrote:
The 580EX supposedly recycles faster than than 550EX, but I only have the 550. I use Canon's CP-E2 with it for faster recycling.

Scott

It's also almost $500 :shock:


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Oct 28, 2004 10:21 |  #10

I use two 550EX's and two Quantum Turbo Z battery packs. Recycle time is virtually instantaneous.
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Oct 28, 2004 10:59 |  #11

I guess I'll go for the 550EX since I might be doing more weddings. There seems to be a wide range of flash brackets available and I could really use some pointers on what to look for. Are the ones on http://www.pictureline​.com …custombrackets/​index.html (external link) beyond what I would need? The brackets seem a bit expensive, but I've bought from this place before and they are good to work with, but will buy elsewhere if I need to. I'm in the US.

What are the recycle times like with a NimH battery? The Quantum Turbo Z mentioned is out of my price range for right now.




  
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Oct 28, 2004 11:13 |  #12

Custom Brackets are well respected as are Stroboframe's like the Pro RL, and Kirk Brackets.
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Oct 28, 2004 11:30 |  #13

I use the Stroboframe Press-T. It's small and light and works fine with 10D & 20D.




  
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Oct 28, 2004 12:10 |  #14

Toogy wrote:
Or is there some other way I can speed up the recycle times?

Increase the ISO.


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Oct 28, 2004 13:22 |  #15

[QUOTE="DustyDesert"]M​y favorite photo store told me the 550EX would be best for my 10D. I'm going to be shooting a wedding reception in a gym setting with high ceilings and florescent lighting. I will be shooting some available light B&W with higher ISO's, but also want to use lower ISO's and a flash. quote]

I've been trying to decide for weeks...........420 or 550.

Took the plunge today, now have a nice new 550, and spent an hour or three playing with it. Was it worth the extra over the 420......?

YEP...wonderful bit of kit, looking forward to the weekend to try some serious stuff. And it makes even my humble 300D look the buisiness.. 8)


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