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Jan 23, 2009 14:19 as a reply to  @ post 7160578 |  #121

:( You guys are bummin' me out.

Am I the only person here using nothing but DPP? (Okay I use Corel Photo House for the clone tool and Text, but that doesn't count)

Let me just throw a couple questions out there, regarding that program, then I'll go away:

1) For a RAW image, what are the differences in doing your sharpening in the RAW tab, as opposed to RGB?

2) (not really "sharpening", but aslong as I'm here) Under what conditions do you use "Linear" to adjust contrast?

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Jan 23, 2009 16:17 |  #122

LV Moose wrote in post #7171729 (external link)
1) For a RAW image, what are the differences in doing your sharpening in the RAW tab, as opposed to RGB?

Nothing. Only the scale is different. The effect is cumulative.

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2) (not really "sharpening", but aslong as I'm here) Under what conditions do you use "Linear" to adjust contrast?

I never use it.
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Jan 23, 2009 16:37 |  #123

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Danke u.

I've used it once... to process the image of a full moon. Linear seemed to give me better detail.


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Jan 24, 2009 20:37 as a reply to  @ post 5089893 |  #124

My first exercise using USM (in Zoom Browser):
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100% crop, Amount 150, Radius 1.0, threshold 0
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Jan 24, 2009 20:40 |  #125

USM is a pretty poor method of sharpening, there are much better methods described in earlier pages of this thread.


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Jan 24, 2009 20:42 as a reply to  @ LV Moose's post |  #126

Part 2

amount 300%, Radius 1.5, threshold 0

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And just using the slider, all the way to 100%, which is sharper still.
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Just using the slider, I wonder what the inherent Radius and Threshold settings are.

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Jan 24, 2009 20:45 |  #127

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USM is a pretty poor method of sharpening, there are much better methods described in earlier pages of this thread.

I'm sure. But I've gotta use what I've got. I don't have the capability to use layers, high-pass, edges, and such.

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Jan 24, 2009 20:46 |  #128

You could download GIMP and get the sharpening toolkit, it's a free, open source Photoshop style piece of software.


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Jan 24, 2009 20:55 |  #129

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You could download GIMP and get the sharpening toolkit, it's a free, open source Photoshop style piece of software.

I've heard of that.
Right now I'm trying to decide whether to get PS Elements, or save up for the whole enchilada.

Maybe for now, GIMP would hold me over.


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Jan 24, 2009 22:58 as a reply to  @ LV Moose's post |  #130

i've used both photoshop and gimp and they are very similar in what they can do. just don't fall prey to the idea that if it is free, it must not be as good as the bloated overpriced software that is photoshop.


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Jan 26, 2009 06:16 as a reply to  @ rickdog's post |  #131

Wow. I just downloaded GIMP...

Now all I have to do is figure out how to use it.


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Jan 26, 2009 10:48 as a reply to  @ LV Moose's post |  #132

you can find a plethora of tutorials, plugins, brushes, scripts, etc. at:

http://www.gimp.org (external link)

you can google for other sites as well. there are also a ton of youtube tutorials that show you how to do stuff.


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Jan 27, 2009 11:39 |  #133

I just stumbled across this thread while doing a search for member feedback on Lightroom. All I can say at this point is "Wow!" Boy, do I have a lot to learn. I'm thinking at this point, after reading through this thread, that I can probably do without Lightroom, and get good results with what I have: PS7, PSP8, and Gimp. In addition to DPP, of course.

I have a question that's more or less on topic here, since it involves the first step of PP sharpening: I'm shooting in RAW mode, but having to export the images as TIF files because my old versions of s/w won't read Canon's CR2 images (and PS7 doesn't support the Adobe plug-in for this). Am I losing much by converting to TIF right off the bat?

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Jan 27, 2009 11:43 as a reply to  @ cooltouch's post |  #134

as far as i know, tif is an uncompressed format, so you'd think you wouldn't lose much. from what i've read cr2 is basically canon's proprietary version of a tif file anyway. it's jpeg where you have to worry about losing something...


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Jan 27, 2009 15:33 |  #135

Hmmm.

Raw file is a "sort of" tif file, yet very different from what we call a tif file.

Simply put: It's the raw data of the sensor, not yet de-mosaicked (if I wrote that correct, the spell checker thought I did :lol:) . So not an RGB image.

That's why all camera "parameters" and WB can be set in the raw converter without any loss in IQ.

A tiff file has no lossy compression (unlike a jpg), but still, it's best to do any editing you can do in the raw converter there, before converting to whatever format.


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