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Mar 09, 2008 01:42 |  #1

All with MP-E 65:

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Mar 09, 2008 03:12 |  #2

Excellent series- wonderfly shots of the hovefly larva in action. In #6 you can see the aphid giving off pheromone signals- the droplets on the end of it's twin exhaust pipes.

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Mar 09, 2008 03:21 |  #3

LordV wrote in post #5077318 (external link)
Excellent series- wonderfly shots of the hovefly larva in action. In #6 you can see the aphid giving off pheromone signals- the droplets on the end of it's twin exhaust pipes.

Brian V.

Thanks for the ID of the Hoverfly Larva Brian. I thought it was a small caterpillar :oops:.
There was a wasp (I assume) parasiting aphids underneath while this was going on above.

I was wondering what the gold stuff out the "exhaust pipes" was too :)


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Mar 09, 2008 03:30 |  #4

Choderboy wrote in post #5077343 (external link)
Thanks for the ID of the Hoverfly Larva Brian. I thought it was a small caterpillar :oops:.
There was a wasp (I assume) parasiting aphids underneath while this was going on above.

I was wondering what the gold stuff out the "exhaust pipes" was too :)

Ah interesting you mention the wasp - I thought the oof aphid in #2 on the LHS looked like it had been parasitised by a wasp.
I assume the aphid was releasing alarm pheromone.
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Mar 09, 2008 03:39 |  #5

LordV wrote in post #5077367 (external link)
Ah interesting you mention the wasp - I thought the oof aphid in #2 on the LHS looked like it had been parasitised by a wasp.
I assume the aphid was releasing alarm pheromone.
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I was reading your comment in Skylab's post (on the aphid on the celery with the hole in it's back) - you said it looked like it had been parasited - and it made sense that's what those fat bloated aphids are in my pics.
The wasp was stabbing the aphids with the tip of it's abdomen.


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Mar 09, 2008 03:41 |  #6

Choderboy wrote in post #5077396 (external link)
I was reading your comment in Skylab's post (on the aphid on the celery with the hole in it's back) - you said it looked like it had been parasited - and it made sense that's what those fat bloated aphids are in my pics.
The wasp was stabbing the aphids with the tip of it's abdomen.

Yup probably a braconid wasp- around 3mm body length. One shot I've not managed yet is an adult wasp emerging from a mummified aphid- keep an eye on those aphids :)
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Mar 09, 2008 06:44 |  #7

Excellent series, and thanks to both of you for the lessons along the way - hoverfly larvae, pheromones etc. Great stuff. And great shots with the new lens.


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Mar 09, 2008 08:06 as a reply to  @ troypiggo's post |  #8

do u shoot raw or jpeg..how much sharpening do u use>?


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Mar 09, 2008 12:16 as a reply to  @ macro junkie's post |  #9

Excellent series Dave. Great capture. :)


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Mar 09, 2008 15:13 |  #10

Those are great shots! I love them


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Mar 09, 2008 15:26 as a reply to  @ Mike4BekA's post |  #11

Those things are tiny! Surprised you got so close!


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Mar 10, 2008 04:07 |  #12

troypiggo wrote in post #5077879 (external link)
Excellent series, and thanks to both of you for the lessons along the way - hoverfly larvae, pheromones etc. Great stuff. And great shots with the new lens.

Thanks Troy. Incredible what happens on a 2 inch long section of rose stem.

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do u shoot raw or jpeg..how much sharpening do u use>?

Always shoot RAW and large jpeg.
I batch process the jpegs and resize to 1800 x 1200 pixels for archiving on PC. Original RAW and JPGs get transferred to external drives.
I process the RAWs in CS3 to 16bit Tiffs, adjusting white balance and exposure if I got it really wrong, sharpening set to 0.
Tiffs then get processed in CS3, I apply USM at 300/0.3/0 (as per Canon "Getting the most from your 1 Series" or similar document)
If exposure really bad, too much processing usually produces some noise , may reduce sharpening to 200/0.3/0.

Photogirl2007 wrote in post #5078963 (external link)
Excellent series Dave. Great capture. :)

Thanks Joan.

Mike4BekA wrote in post #5079952 (external link)
Those are great shots! I love them

Thanks Mike.

NeoMikel wrote in post #5080020 (external link)
Those things are tiny! Surprised you got so close!

Thanks , Neo?


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Mar 10, 2008 04:55 |  #13

Choderboy wrote in post #5083775 (external link)
Always shoot RAW and large jpeg.
I batch process the jpegs and resize to 1800 x 1200 pixels for archiving on PC. Original RAW and JPGs get transferred to external drives.
I process the RAWs in CS3 to 16bit Tiffs, adjusting white balance and exposure if I got it really wrong, sharpening set to 0.
Tiffs then get processed in CS3, I apply USM at 300/0.3/0 (as per Canon "Getting the most from your 1 Series" or similar document)
If exposure really bad, too much processing usually produces some noise , may reduce sharpening to 200/0.3/0.


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wow thanks..going to try that later..what fstops where u using?


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Mar 10, 2008 05:08 |  #14

Choderboy wrote in post #5083775 (external link)
Thanks Troy. Incredible what happens on a 2 inch long section of rose stem.


Always shoot RAW and large jpeg.
I batch process the jpegs and resize to 1800 x 1200 pixels for archiving on PC. Original RAW and JPGs get transferred to external drives.
I process the RAWs in CS3 to 16bit Tiffs, adjusting white balance and exposure if I got it really wrong, sharpening set to 0.
Tiffs then get processed in CS3, I apply USM at 300/0.3/0 (as per Canon "Getting the most from your 1 Series" or similar document)
If exposure really bad, too much processing usually produces some noise , may reduce sharpening to 200/0.3/0.


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i just tryed your way it didnt give me enough sharpering..i put it against sharpering at 3 in raw then saving to jpeg..using noise reduction before i sharpen..then use 200-1-1 usm then fade the sharpering till i get what i want..the pics come out alot sharper than your way..But its clear to see on your pics u dont need any more sharpering..your pics are real sharp this is why i asked u what u did.i want mine as sharp as yours..there really great shots..


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Mar 10, 2008 05:09 |  #15

macro junkie wrote in post #5083916 (external link)
wow thanks..going to try that later..what fstops where u using?

With the MP-E I'm trying to remember to open with magnification : 1X F11,2x F8, 3X F5.6.
I thought I was not going to go past 3X, but already some of those Aphids were 4X , so I may adjust the scale slightly.
Maybe 3X F6.3 , 4X F5.6.

I'll use that as a rule (for now) but will stop down more if I really want DOF over detail.


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