5D II Spec Sheet

I can't belive it will cost that much, when a MKIII sells for only$ 500.00 more and its a pro series body..maybe around $2600.00

Billyj571 wrote in post #5163652
I can't belive it will cost that much, when a MKIII sells for only$ 500.00 more and its a pro series body..maybe around $2600.00

1D mkIII serves a different market. The 5D is under the 1Ds series.

RX350 wrote in post #5111287
now what should i do with my mk3 ?

You could donate it to me

These specs don't seem terribly outlandish, but I doubt Canon would add full weather-sealing to a non 1D body. That just doesn't seem to be a reasonable strategy for them. They probably want to avoid becoming their own worst competition (a la 40D and 1D MKIII), so from a business standpoint, that seems unrealistic.

folville wrote in post #5192308
These specs don't seem terribly outlandish, but I doubt Canon would add full weather-sealing to a non 1D body. That just doesn't seem to be a reasonable strategy for them. They probably want to avoid becoming their own worst competition (a la 40D and 1D MKIII), so from a business standpoint, that seems unrealistic.

Why unrealistic? Noink and Pentax have it on their prosumer bodies. It's been said already, but the reason this wouldn't cannabilize their 1D sales is because pros need more fps. It comes down to that. Canon made the EOS 3, which in theory would cannabilize their EOS 1 series, but it didn't concern them too much. Overall, 1 series cameras are sold less than rebels, so why not try and bring every line closer to the 1 series. The 1 series will always be the 1 series--pros buy them and use them for what they are designed for.

If you were a camera company, would you rather have everyone buy rebel series cameras and never upgrade to the pro level because it seems so vastly far away in price and feature set? No. You put great features in the consumer bodies, and those who experience the features learn to love them and then proceed to upgrade to a prosumer body because it has just a bit more features. Once you're at the prosumer level, if you let people use the majority of the features found in the pro bodies, they find it easier to upgrade to the 1 series because they believe that they're mostly there anyway, and they can more easily talk themselves into it. If you maintain a huge separation between the prosumer and pro lines, then people won't justify the giant leap in features and price. By adding tons of features to the lower lines, you can move everyone on up the ladder, and profits increase.

Feel free to disagree with me. It's just a theory.

If its true that would be great. Just have to wait and see.

Chandler. wrote in post #5192453
Why unrealistic? Noink and Pentax have it on their prosumer bodies. It's been said already, but the reason this wouldn't cannabilize their 1D sales is because pros need more fps. It comes down to that. Canon made the EOS 3, which in theory would cannabilize their EOS 1 series, but it didn't concern them too much. Overall, 1 series cameras are sold less than rebels, so why not try and bring every line closer to the 1 series. The 1 series will always be the 1 series--pros buy them and use them for what they are designed for.

If you were a camera company, would you rather have everyone buy rebel series cameras and never upgrade to the pro level because it seems so vastly far away in price and feature set? No. You put great features in the consumer bodies, and those who experience the features learn to love them and then proceed to upgrade to a prosumer body because it has just a bit more features. Once you're at the prosumer level, if you let people use the majority of the features found in the pro bodies, they find it easier to upgrade to the 1 series because they believe that they're mostly there anyway, and they can more easily talk themselves into it. If you maintain a huge separation between the prosumer and pro lines, then people won't justify the giant leap in features and price. By adding tons of features to the lower lines, you can move everyone on up the ladder, and profits increase.

Feel free to disagree with me. It's just a theory.

No, not at all, what you say makes quite a bit of sense and is entirely logical. It just seems to me that Canon wouldn't provide a camera so close to the 1 series specwise. They may go and prove me wrong, and I would love to see it. Ultimately I suppose this will be determined largely by the price of the camera; this could be a great body to sneak in above the D300 and below the 1D, and if half these specs are accurate, that will probably be the case, but just how close it is to either one of these existent cameras will probably be reflected in its price.

At the end of the day, I just trust that Canon will make this another camera with a great shelf-life that performs admirably, even if the price tag is a bit steep, and we've been saying that about the 5D successor for about four years.

27 days to go ’till we’ll find out if it’s BS or not.

Sounds pretty nice. If only it were real specs and not just rumors..

Does anyone know if the guy that is always right has posted on DPReview? I think his name is tsphoto or something.

He hasn't. I don't think he's posted in a few months. Tsiphoto i believe. If it is an accurate 'rumour', i don't think he would confirm it until right before the date. I could see him debunking it though by now, if it wasn't true.

Read into that what you will*. Or maybe he's just busy


*I think it's a wishful rumour though. I'm not hopeful. *sigh*

dorkgirl wrote in post #5204378
*I think it's a wishful rumour though. I'm not hopeful. *sigh*

Yeah. This is the fourth full evolution of the 5D2 rumors we've had in the last 12 months. At the rate this is going, the 5D2 will have had more rumors than pixels when if finally shows up. And the specs described here strike me as being unrealistic. Here's my rational:

• I don't think Canon's ready to have full weather sealing on their non-pro bodies yet. The 40D tells us that it is coming, but I'm betting that it'll be two more generations before we see it. Why they keep putting this off is a mystery to me (and 1-series sales isn't a compelling reason in my mind), but they seems fairly pleased with themselves over it.
  
• 3rd party NR seems like total BS. What magic 3rd party software is this and why isn't that 3rd party selling it themselves? NoiseNinja is about the only think I can think of beats what Canon is doing with their current bodies, and Canon doesn't have a strong reputation for cooperating in 3rd party efforts. That's why Sigma and Tamron have to reverse-engineer the EF system and we don't have Zeiss glass that's native to EOS.
  
• 1 2/3 stop sensitivity improvement...that's an awful lot. The 5D could be relied upon to gather at least 5 stops of light, usually closer to 6. Now they're talking about 7 to 8? I think that if they had that technology, we'd have seen it in the 1Ds Mark III where they could already charge a premium for it.
  
• ISO 12800 (C.F. up to 25600) .... I'm not that worried by Nikon, but ok. As long as it's bloody clean through 3200...as in substantial improvement over what the 5D was doing (apparently that's a tall order given 1D3 and 1Ds3 which are both better, but not by much). They could make a body operate at ISO 2 million, but that doesn't mean it'd be useful.
  
• 14-bit, 15.3 MP, a newer LCD, live-view, sensor cleaning, microadjustment...bah.​..that's low hanging fruit.

You guys forgot to mention the biggest new feature never seen in any of their Cameras. A dedicated "Replacement Schedule" button. Push it and a menu pops up with the Specs and release dates of it's replacement.

Imaginos wrote in post #5205833

• 1 2/3 stop sensitivity improvement...that's an awful lot. The 5D could be relied upon to gather at least 5 stops of light, usually closer to 6. Now they're talking about 7 to 8? I think that if they had that technology, we'd have seen it in the 1Ds Mark III where they could already charge a premium for it.

That wasn't a DR improvement. It was an ISO noise improvement.

All these rumours should just stop now. I have it on good source the exact date that the 5DMII will be released on. That date will be the day after I break down after being sick and tired of waiting for the 5DMII to be released and make an order for a 5D!