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Mar 26, 2008 21:29 as a reply to  @ post 5198711 |  #31

At the next clear full moon, take a shot with your S5IS and post it. Meanwhile, I'll be howling at the moon from here......in my corner........:lol:




  
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Mar 27, 2008 00:02 |  #32

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At the next clear full moon, take a shot with your S5IS and post it. Meanwhile, I'll be howling at the moon from here......in my corner........:lol:

I just got an S5 and have to wait for the moon to come back through it's early phases. I would love to snap a picture of the moon with it.


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Mar 27, 2008 05:53 as a reply to  @ 94GTStang's post |  #33

Yeah that would be great! If we get a whole bunch of S5IS owners to post Moonshots under similar camera settings, we can do a lot of comparisons:cool:




  
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Mar 27, 2008 07:50 |  #34

Why not use Jons recommendation on the settings (with no exposure change as some dont understand it) as a control. Ill see if I can get one this weekend, although its suppost to be cloudy here, ill keep an eye out for it.

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By "full telephoto" do you mean "digital zoom"? if so, turn that off. You can do the same thing in post-processing, and all digital zoom does is average a bunch of pixels together, so your pictures will lose a bit of detail in the process.

Try dropping the ISO and stopping down a bit. ISO 100 and f/5.6 at 1/800 should still give you a sharp image. And give it a touch more exposure; 1/2 stop or so. Both the lower ISO and the increased exposure will help with the chromatic noise I seem to be seeing. Also, I really recommend a tripod. The moon isn't moving all that fast.


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Mar 27, 2008 13:41 |  #35

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Why not use Jons recommendation on the settings (with no exposure change as some dont understand it) as a control. Ill see if I can get one this weekend, although its suppost to be cloudy here, ill keep an eye out for it.

Don't know about that - f5.6 at 1/800 will give you a very dark sky and not much else. ;)

Here's mine taken a couple of weeks ago when I was testing a client's one prior to delivery.

Moon - f8 1/60 full (optical) zoom tripod mounted self timer ISO100 100%crop unedited.

People don't understand the limitations of the p+s cameras though - no matter how good they are they simply won't have the low light performance of DSLRs.

Here's a fantail taken under a bush canopy yesterday - heavy shade, full telephoto (optical), ISO 400 1/160 -1EV . It was also wide open at f3.2. Again, full crop undedited.

So long story short - can the s5 take good shots? Yes. If there's loads of light and you get the exposure right and you use a low enough ISO to combat the noise.

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Mar 27, 2008 14:09 as a reply to  @ low orbit's post |  #36

Well, it's always a sunny day on the moon, so "sunny 16" applies. ISO 100 means 1/100 at f/16; 1/200 at f/11; 1/400 at f/8 and 1/800 at f/5.6, which is fast enough to reduce the need for a tripod at max. optical zoom.


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Mar 27, 2008 14:09 as a reply to  @ low orbit's post |  #37

Low Orbit -
I would agree. The S5IS can take "good" shots. Unfortunately "good" is not "great". I think what I've been getting with my S5IS is on par with your shots both with the moon and bird shots. Fine details of craters or feathers rapidly dissolve into pixelated artifacts upon cropping. But I guess that's the nature of a P&S beast. For me the saving grace has been that it is also a stereo camcorder, with a heck of a "good" snapshot capability. I'm still wondering though, how the early S5IS's got such great reviews.




  
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Mar 27, 2008 15:01 |  #38

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People don't understand the limitations of the p+s cameras though - no matter how good they are they simply won't have the low light performance of DSLRs.

Maybe "Some" people don't understand the limitations of advanced compacts (p&s), but many, and I mean many of us do, and still love em to pieces! I also think most of us "people" understand the difference between an SLR camera and a compact.

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Mar 27, 2008 17:43 as a reply to  @ JustShootin''s post |  #39

heres a pic i took with my s5 camera there not the best but it was kinda late in the night


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Mar 27, 2008 17:47 as a reply to  @ supertomcat's post |  #40

heres a few more


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Mar 27, 2008 20:27 as a reply to  @ supertomcat's post |  #41

Ah, the S5 water torture test! Nice Pics!:wink:




  
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Mar 27, 2008 22:06 as a reply to  @ odin7's post |  #42

thanx man i havent done a water shot in a while ill try somemore tomorrow




  
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Mar 29, 2008 14:46 |  #43

Jon wrote in post #5203684 (external link)
Well, it's always a sunny day on the moon, so "sunny 16" applies. ISO 100 means 1/100 at f/16; 1/200 at f/11; 1/400 at f/8 and 1/800 at f/5.6, which is fast enough to reduce the need for a tripod at max. optical zoom.

Ah, must try that one night - I always thought the reflected light from the moon was lower than a sunny day. Cheers.

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Low Orbit -
I would agree. The S5IS can take "good" shots. Unfortunately "good" is not "great". I think what I've been getting with my S5IS is on par with your shots both with the moon and bird shots. Fine details of craters or feathers rapidly dissolve into pixelated artifacts upon cropping. But I guess that's the nature of a P&S beast. For me the saving grace has been that it is also a stereo camcorder, with a heck of a "good" snapshot capability. I'm still wondering though, how the early S5IS's got such great reviews.

Easy. Because of shots like this ...

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=JustShootin';5204005]​Maybe "Some" people don't understand the limitations of advanced compacts (p&s), but many, and I mean many of us do, and still love em to pieces! I also think most of us "people" understand the difference between an SLR camera and a compact.

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Sorry :o Sometimes I forget to quantify my statements. I'm certain that there are loads of people here, yourself included, that get the difference and appreciate the limitations. I was talking generally about those that think that the results will outshine a DSLR.

From my day with it yesterday, I'd easily have one as a backup to a DSLR and would be quite happy with one as my main until that point.

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Mar 29, 2008 17:23 as a reply to  @ low orbit's post |  #44

Maybe some of us just don't have the same expertise as others of us OR maybe some of us just don't have the same S5IS as others of us.;)




  
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Mar 29, 2008 19:07 |  #45

odin7 wrote in post #5219114 (external link)
Maybe some of us just don't have the same expertise as others of us OR maybe some of us just don't have the same S5IS as others of us.;)

I'd hardly consider myself an expert - more like advanced novice ;)

And as for the same one comment ... the once I borrowed for the day is made in Japan - that extra attention to detail must completely outweigh any skills that I was lacking :lol: No seriously though, I've gotten some pretty good shots with my A75 and that's made in Malaysia.

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