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Is the 70-2002.8IS sharper than a 24-70L

 
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Mar 24, 2008 09:56 |  #1

Hi all,

I just purchased a new 70-200 2.8IS and I'm amazed at the sharpness of this lens and the bokeh.

My concern is my 4mth old 24-70L is sharp but without a question the 70-200 clearly wins in detail.

For example if I take a picture at f5.6, 1/125 with both lenses the 70-200 is definitely amazing.

Do I have a bad copy of the 24-70??

TIA I appreciate any input.


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Mar 24, 2008 10:23 |  #2

Post some pictures and we'll see

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Mar 24, 2008 10:23 |  #3

Telephotos, all else being equal, will inherently be sharper than wider optics.
IMHO the 70-200mm lenses are Canon's sharpest Zooms.
So you should not be too surprised it is sharper than the 24-70mm IMHO.

I would not necessarily use this fact as a guideline for assessing your 24-70's optical quality.


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Mar 24, 2008 10:27 |  #4

AlanU wrote in post #5179702 (external link)
Hi all,

I just purchased a new 70-200 2.8IS and I'm amazed at the sharpness of this lens and the bokeh.

My concern is my 4mth old 24-70L is sharp but without a question the 70-200 clearly wins in detail.

For example if I take a picture at f5.6, 1/125 with both lenses the 70-200 is definitely amazing.

Do I have a bad copy of the 24-70??

TIA I appreciate any input.

it's supposed to be. if the shorter zoom were sharper you'd have a problem :D.

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Mar 24, 2008 10:32 |  #5

I will have to post pics later this evening.

I just notice the eyelash pixel peep to be more defined with the 70-200IS.

Overall the 24-70L is very consistant in caputuring crisp shots but a brief day of playing with my new 70-200 just blew me away. I wonder if my hands are contributing to less sharp shots with the 24-70.

Just yesterday I used the 24-70 at a show/shine (overcast/sprinkles) and the lens truly proved its an L.

I'll post pics later. Thanks all for any info


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Mar 24, 2008 13:24 |  #6

If there's a lot of quality loss with the 24-70, the fact that you referred to it as "older' might be a tipoff. Maybe it needs to go in for service and calibration.

But, on the whole I'd agree with the other responses and expect a stopped down 70-200 to usually beat the 24-70, although not by a huge margin.


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Mar 24, 2008 13:35 |  #7

My 70-200 f2.8 IS is sharpter than my 24-70 f2.8 on both the 20D and the 5D.


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Mar 24, 2008 14:31 |  #8

Also, I think the brick is more prone to back or front focus problems than is the 70-200.

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Mar 24, 2008 14:53 |  #9

my 70-200 is sharper than my 24-70., not to say the 24-70 isnt sharp, just noticiably sharper out of camera.


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Mar 24, 2008 14:57 as a reply to  @ Subimatt's post |  #10

My 24-70 is less sharp than my 70-200 2.8 IS, but only from 2.8 - 4.0 or so. Then things even up ;) , I think it has something to do with the range you use them at. If Im shooting the brick at 2.8 - 4.0 I am much closer to the subject than I am with the 70-200 2.8 IS at the same f-stops, making the DOF thinner (more room for missed focus to occur since the DOF is so thin).


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Mar 24, 2008 16:10 as a reply to  @ Franko515's post |  #11

my 70-200f2.8Lis is sharper than my 24-70 but not by a lot.;)


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Mar 24, 2008 16:42 |  #12

my both lenses are sharp, can't decide which is sharper


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Mar 24, 2008 16:48 |  #13

Tareq wrote in post #5182145 (external link)
my both lenses are sharp, can't decide which is sharper

Same here.


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Mar 24, 2008 17:58 |  #14

Tareq wrote in post #5182145 (external link)
my both lenses are sharp, can't decide which is sharper

ben_r_ wrote in post #5182175 (external link)
Same here.

I suspect that if I had a tripod to test them they would be even. I was speaking of handholding (which 100% of my shots are now). While shooting handheld at 2.8 sometimes the DOF is so thin that user error comes in to play (my body rocking), even if the subject moves a hair it will move whats in focus.

These are 2 great lenses IMO and you'd be hard pressed to find better in that range. Depending on your needs either will do ;)


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Mar 24, 2008 18:31 |  #15

Franko515 wrote in post #5182659 (external link)
I suspect that if I had a tripod to test them they would be even. I was speaking of handholding (which 100% of my shots are now). While shooting handheld at 2.8 sometimes the DOF is so thin that user error comes in to play (my body rocking), even if the subject moves a hair it will move whats in focus.

These are 2 great lenses IMO and you'd be hard pressed to find better in that range. Depending on your needs either will do ;)

i use both 24-70 and 70-200 handholding and both are very sharp to me.


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