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Nov 15, 2004 11:52 |  #1

I work with computers all day long, so I know what could happen to them when fate decides to strike. That's why I back up my originals and processed files to DVD periodically.

But the old saying 'haste makes waste' is still alive and true. I just got back from a shoot and I had a 1 gig card to process, but I was nearly out of space in my hard drive partition. So, I cut the first of four DVD's worth of files from my new 20D camera. When the first DVD was cut, I popped it out of the reader and put it back in to force the computer to re-read the DVD. This would ensure I had a valid backup before I deleted the directories.

My mistake came when I negelected to perform this extra step after burning the successive three DVD's before deleting the directories. And wouldn't you know it, two of the remaining three DVD's had encountered a 'soft error' in the boot sector of the DVD. Apparently this was not enough to fail the burn, since it appears to be due to a defect in the DVD media itself. I had two bad DVD's in my 30-pack bundle AND I had deleted half of my first pictures from my new 20D camera!!! :cry:

So, the moral of this story is to always double check your DVD/cd backup BEFORE deleting your directories! :oops:


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Nov 15, 2004 12:15 |  #2

Im in no way a pro photographer, but I am a big computer geek :D

Look online for info on the "soft error" in the DVD boot sector, because I would bet that there is software out there that will parse threw the data on the disc and recover most of those photos. Also try www.shareware.com (external link) I will do some searching of my own and post up anything I find.




  
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Nov 15, 2004 12:46 |  #3

Thanks, NJDrew, let us know what you find.

In the mean time, here's an article that talks about the usual care and feeding issues, but at the end of the article mentions a cool utility that will check the cd/dvd for bad sectors: http://www.rogercavana​gh.com/helpinfo/37_cds​afe-1.stm (external link)


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Nov 15, 2004 13:52 |  #4

Yep been there done that. NOW I copy to C drive, then copy to D drive then write to DVD, then erase CF!! :D :D

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Nov 16, 2004 01:50 |  #5

I'm Paranoid so -

Copy to work drive.
Backup work drive to Firewire Backup drive.
Burn CD/DVD from work drive.
Disconnect Firewire Backup drive and place in Firesafe.
Format CF card.




  
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Dec 21, 2009 02:11 |  #6

DVD's are to small for backups.
Need more storage.
Desparately waiting for affordable bluray burner.




  
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Dec 21, 2009 02:43 |  #7

Considering just how inexpensive CF cards have become why not just save them as an original backup?

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Dec 21, 2009 04:16 |  #8

Import to computer>Back Up library (separate external hard drive)>Time Machine Backup (separate external hard drive)


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Dec 21, 2009 04:19 |  #9

hennie wrote in post #9237015 (external link)
DVD's are to small for backups.
Need more storage.
Desparately waiting for affordable bluray burner.

You posted on a five year old thread...


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Dec 21, 2009 06:42 |  #10

Doh!


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Dec 21, 2009 08:00 |  #11

Lesson learned. I upload sports pics to a website for our local HS. I absolutely NEVER delete the RAW files on the card, (taking steps all the way back original files) until the upload of processed images from home PC to website is complete.

Bad stuff can, and WILL happen! Sorry you ran into problems!

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Dec 21, 2009 18:00 |  #12

I tried backing up to DVDs, but after doing a few I realized it was too time consuming and they don't hold enough (I save my RAW files). First I save to the PC hard drive, then to the external. Only after that do I erase the card (If it's something important). I plan on getting a second external drive soon and try to backup more pics to my zenfolio as well.


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Dec 22, 2009 07:19 |  #13

This topic crops up again and again (even 5 years later) and the only answer is to back up.

My routine : Download the images from the card, save to data drive (seperate to the system drive), back up to external drive, then format the card.


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Dec 22, 2009 08:38 as a reply to  @ neilwood32's post |  #14

I had friend just complain how hes music backups dont play at all, and they were only 5 years old. So I would be careful with DVD also. Lousy quality medium = problems in few years even if its supposed to last for ~100 years.

Edit: I have no idea why the backups dont work. I didnt believe it was problem with the discs until I take em to my home and test it. He stored all discs on appropriate box so they were never exposed to sunlight more than what it takes to put em to drive.




  
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Dec 22, 2009 08:50 |  #15

Cromfel wrote in post #9244256 (external link)
I had friend just complain how hes music backups dont play at all, and they were only 5 years old. So I would be careful with DVD also. Lousy quality medium = problems in few years even if its supposed to last for ~100 years.

Edit: I have no idea why the backups dont work. I didnt believe it was problem with the discs until I take em to my home and test it. He stored all discs on appropriate box so they were never exposed to sunlight more than what it takes to put em to drive.

For long term storage make sure you use genuine archival media like Taiyo Yuden or something similar. THe cheap DVDs dye can migrate causing disk failure.


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