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Apr 05, 2008 20:33 |  #1

I had a session with Jess today, who had previous experience. For the record, and because I know it will be commented on, I know there are shadows, and I favor overexposure.

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Apr 05, 2008 20:44 |  #2

I really like these. I love 5, and the over exposure looks nice.




  
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Apr 05, 2008 20:48 |  #3

hennebury22 wrote in post #5268029 (external link)
I really like these. I love 5, and the over exposure looks nice.

Thank you =)




  
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Apr 05, 2008 21:19 as a reply to  @ lilbloo's post |  #4

I really like 2 and 5, esp. the coloring in 2. :)


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Apr 05, 2008 21:24 |  #5

Like the pose, nice and sharp. I respect your view about overexposure but I personally would like to see some colour in her face.

EDIT. Sorry the picture that I like best is the last.


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Apr 05, 2008 21:40 |  #6

It doesn't state anything about comments welcome so I'll shut up.


Hmmm, did I just say I'd shut up?

Okay, I will after I make several comments. That's why we are all out here, right?


#1 Flat shoulders ponting toward the camera.
#2 Profile but limited to head and I feel format could have been changed to make a portrait shot landscape.
#3 is okay with the exception of elbows cut off.
#4 Nice shot but color is off compared to others.
#5 is nice
#7 has strong shadows on background
#8 is really nice with some additional cropping.
#9 is extremly pretty but frontal flash is so overpowering compared to other light.

So LIBLOO, sorry for that what I said. You did not ask for CC and I gave it anyways.

Oh I'm so in trouble.....




  
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Apr 06, 2008 07:28 |  #7

RandyMN wrote in post #5268305 (external link)
It doesn't state anything about comments welcome so I'll shut up.


Hmmm, did I just say I'd shut up?

Okay, I will after I make several comments. That's why we are all out here, right?


#1 Flat shoulders ponting toward the camera.
#2 Profile but limited to head and I feel format could have been changed to make a portrait shot landscape.
#3 is okay with the exception of elbows cut off.
#4 Nice shot but color is off compared to others.
#5 is nice
#7 has strong shadows on background
#8 is really nice with some additional cropping.
#9 is extremly pretty but frontal flash is so overpowering compared to other light.

So LIBLOO, sorry for that what I said. You did not ask for CC and I gave it anyways.

Oh I'm so in trouble.....

Hahahahaha, no, you're not in trouble. I'm a little rusty (read: motherhood), and while resizing the images I noticed a bunch of details that I had overlooked. I appreciate taking your time to tell me your observations =)




  
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Apr 06, 2008 08:30 |  #8

I really like this set. Your model is great. I love the way you processed these. Nice skin rendition. My only comments will be basically on positioning the face. This is all based on what I have learned in the past few weeks in my studio and location lighting class.

There are basically 3 ways of seeing the face. From what i am told, you really don't want to go in between these ways.
This is directly from my worksheet in Eric Breitenbach's class.

"Full face: straight into the lens of the camera.

2/3: that angle of the face at which both eyes are visible from the camera position, with the eye on the far side going almost to the edge of the face's outline. A small amount of flesh separates the eye from the background. The tip of the nose is contained well within the cheek. It does not come close to the edge, nor does it cross over the outline of the face into the background. The bridge of the nose does not cover the far eye.

Profile: Exactly one half of the face, straight down the middle. The eye and eyebrow of the far side are not seen by the lens.

In even, flat light, analyze your subject's face from the three angles above. Look at the 2/3 and profile views from both sides. You're looking for how the various angles change and display the shape and features of the face. A 2/3 view usually slims the face; a round face seems more oval. Square jaws are softened. Protruding ears are flattened/hidden. A profile will emphasize the entire shape of the face/head/ Hair will also make a difference. Look to see which side of the face shows the hair most engagingly. "

Now to look at your pictures and analyze the face.

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1. Very nice use of the Full face. Good job.

2. You are in between a profile and a 2/3 view of the face. Look at how the nose crosses of the edge of the face. it makes a weird outline.

3. This is a little better, it is closer to 2/3. The nose is still bordering/protruding the edge of the face.

4. This one is even better. Th nose and mouth are within the edges of the face. The eye socket however is a little to far to the edge. It makes the eyeball protrude the edge. It also exaggerates the eyebrow a lot.

5. This is a pretty good 2/3 view of the face. you can see how much more flattering it is on the face. It is a little close to a full face view, but it works well.

6. There is no six.

7. Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner. Perfect 2/3 view of the face. Perfect! Do that will the others. I like the pose too. I wouldn't mind seeing this one with her eyes engaging with the camera. Nice work.

8. This is another one the is between profile and 2/3. The nose crosses the edge of the face and is exaggerated.

9. This is a 2/3 view. The arm she is resting on squashes the face a little and makes it look a little unusual.

Keep in mind you camera angle in relationship to the face. The lens axis should be parallel to the vertical axis of the face. This will ensure correct looking proportions. For example: No. 9 If you were to shoot from a little lower of an angle, it would be parallel with the face and wouldn't exaggerate the nose quite so much. Try these things out and see what you come up with. If you are conscious of these things, it will make a dramatic difference in your portraits. It has greatly improved mine in just a few days time.

I hope I am not being too critical of your work. I personally think it is excellent work, and I love your style. In fact, I am curious to know how you post processes to get those skin tones. Anyway, nice work!


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Apr 06, 2008 10:08 as a reply to  @ EOS MAN1's post |  #9

EOS Man,

Thank you very much for your observations and info - I found it interesting and will use it for my future sessions =)

That said, I was the bane of my photography instructor's classroom because I always bend the rules. I of course want to show my subject in the best light (ha ha!), but I also like to keep it realistic and with certain imperfections. I'm always **** about how anybody can look great in a photoshoot, so I'm not going to turn around do the exact same thing.




  
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