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Apr 05, 2008 21:54 |  #1

just as the title reads... slow AF/3fps... not the best for shooting sports

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Apr 05, 2008 22:15 |  #2

I am with you man, 3 FPS just doesn't stop the action fast enough for sports. Softball (freshman) it is ok, but baseball, track, basketball, volleyball, and other sports 3 FPS just isn't enough.

I do not want to give you much C&C on the baseball photos since mine are not that good either, but it seems as if some are out of focus?




  
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Apr 05, 2008 22:18 |  #3

Hey I love that 3rd shot looking down the baseline, great composition!


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Apr 05, 2008 22:19 |  #4

Did these shots lose quality when they were uploaded? I don't see and part of these pictures that is sharp. What lens were you shooting with?

I will agree with you that 3 fps isn't fast enough for most sports. It is disappointing when you realize the moment you meant to capture was between frames.

Number 1 is shot at too slow of a shutter speed.

Also the horizon is off on 1,2,4, and 5.


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Apr 05, 2008 22:20 |  #5

I agree with you, it is the MAIN reason I upgraded from an XTI to a 30D..


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Apr 05, 2008 22:25 |  #6

kgauger30 wrote in post #5268556 (external link)
I agree with you, it is the MAIN reason I upgraded from an XTI to a 30D..

You went 10 higher than I did, I fell into the arms of a 20D.

I also didn't think about the fact they are uploaded on Photobucket, they might have lost some quality due to this.




  
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Apr 05, 2008 22:25 |  #7

Not sure were you are going with this, but fps has nothing to do with focus and motion blur. What I see here is motion blur from too slow of a shutter. 1/200 is way to slow even for little league. Not sure which lens you are using but do suggest you shoot it wide open, bump up your ISO to get a ss 1/1000 or better. Make sure you are using AI Servo and I would suggest center point focus.

On my monitor these look a bit oversaturated. I would suggest taking the time to straighten the horizons and a much tighter crop. Most of these have loads of wasted space around the action. Consider a tight vertical crop


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Apr 05, 2008 22:29 |  #8

I agree that 3fps is too slow if you want to get some good sequences with bursts of shots, but I have an XT and get decent shots. Sure, I have times when I wish I had the faster frame rate to get some sequences, but I do what I can. One day, I'll have a faster camera.


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Apr 05, 2008 22:33 |  #9

I agree that 3fps is good.. ALOT better than some of thos eP&S that get 1 fp 2 sec.. But I do like the 5 better. Even though, as long as you get your timing down you don't need that many.

Beezewax, you need to get your shutter speed up though.. nothing lower than around 600.. I can shoot lower than that, but movement is blurred and they just don't turn out as well.


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Apr 05, 2008 22:39 |  #10

I started with an XTI for sports photography. Had a 20D and liked it.

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Apr 05, 2008 22:47 |  #11

3 fps may be slow but you'll eventually end up a better shooter for it. You need to work on your timing with what you have, not just whip out a 8 fps body and blast away as all you'll be doing is wearing down your shutter life. Learn the gear you have inside and out so it becomes second nature in your hands, learn positioning , angles and lighting to get the shots, study the game you plan on shooting. Don't forget, the big guns were shooting what would now be called pretty slow film with manual focus cameras and they were getting the shots. Be patient and keep working at as if it was that easy everybody would be doing it.


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Apr 05, 2008 22:55 |  #12

Thank you, Chris. Spray and Pray is not the secret to good sports photography. There are some instances when shooting burst will help, but it is rarely required. I can guarantee that a skilled photographer with a 3fps camera can shoot rings around an unskilled one shooting with 10fps.

Things happen WAY too fast when shooting sports for even one shot every 0.10s (10 fps) to catch "the shot".

Regarding the shots posted in this thread, the colors are WAY too saturated and they are almost all soft and OOF. None of these things have anything to do with fps whatsoever.


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Apr 05, 2008 22:58 |  #13

The burst rate of your camera isn't the weak link in these images, unless you were trying to make a stop-motion movie.


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Apr 05, 2008 23:13 |  #14

dmwierz wrote in post #5268733 (external link)
Thank you, Chris. Spray and Pray is not the secret to good sports photography. There are some instances when shooting burst will help, but it is rarely required. I can guarantee that a skilled photographer with a 3fps camera can shoot rings around an unskilled one shooting with 10fps.

Things happen WAY too fast when shooting sports for even one shot every 0.10s (10 fps) to catch "the shot".

Regarding the shots posted in this thread, the colors are WAY too saturated and they are almost all soft and OOF. None of these things have anything to do with fps whatsoever.

Quoted for truth. Frame rate is insignificant. Timing and foresight are the things you need, and no matter what camera you have, they're purely human characteristics.

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Apr 05, 2008 23:26 |  #15

the fps won't make a big difference if the pictures are out of focus (like the above), the more fps and bad focus just gives you more bad pictures. You really need to shoot faster than f5.6 to give u better shutter speeds, and bump the iso up a little as well. Shutter speeds should be at least 500 or higher for sports photography.




  
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